I was born in 86 and I’m dead ass confused as to how you see it this way. Before rappers were influencing more of how we dressed, slang, what women we liked, etc. The MAJOR issue now is they are influencing NOTHING BUT killing each other
Rappers are the Most Respected, Admired, Imitated and Worshipped People in the Black Community. And it has DESTROYED US.
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Iverson_64
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A lot of the issues you're talking about were around before rap even went mainstream.
Don't get me wrong. I know there's been negative influences when it comes to certain rappers and trends. I don't think anyone can deny that.
But the breakup of the nuclear family was starting to become an issue in the Black community as far back as the 1970's and, if anything, the Crack era played a much bigger role in accelerating it than rap. And broken families on top of socioeconomic issues play the biggest role in many of the issues you're claiming even though rap is often a convenient scapegoat due to how visible it is.
Believe me, though, the biggest influence on street dudes is other street dudes engaging in BS. Baltimore doesn't have a thriving rap scene in the slightest but still has tons of major issues in the inner city because of things unrelated to rap. Ditto for Detroit. Ironically, the biggest rappers from Detroit weren't gangster rap at all: Eminem, Big Sean, Danny Brown, J Dilla/Slum Village, Royce, Sada Baby, etc. yet Detroit still has a number of inner city problems that goes back for generations including when Motown was still popping.
Of course, nobody's going to talk about how the rapid decline and offshoring of certain industries like the Automobile industry on top of drugs, broken homes, and poverty played a major role in inner city Detroit's or inner city Baltimore's problems but it's easy to point the finger at hip hop and make a bold claim that these issues would've been resolved if rap never went mainstream in the Black community.
Taking away rap(especially negative rap) might lead to a handful of positive changes but, overall, things wouldn't be all that different as you'd expect. There's a reason why reparations is gaining popularity. There's some things that are both self-inflicted by our own community or a result of a shytty government that still owes us.
Don't get me wrong. I know there's been negative influences when it comes to certain rappers and trends. I don't think anyone can deny that.
But the breakup of the nuclear family was starting to become an issue in the Black community as far back as the 1970's and, if anything, the Crack era played a much bigger role in accelerating it than rap. And broken families on top of socioeconomic issues play the biggest role in many of the issues you're claiming even though rap is often a convenient scapegoat due to how visible it is.
Believe me, though, the biggest influence on street dudes is other street dudes engaging in BS. Baltimore doesn't have a thriving rap scene in the slightest but still has tons of major issues in the inner city because of things unrelated to rap. Ditto for Detroit. Ironically, the biggest rappers from Detroit weren't gangster rap at all: Eminem, Big Sean, Danny Brown, J Dilla/Slum Village, Royce, Sada Baby, etc. yet Detroit still has a number of inner city problems that goes back for generations including when Motown was still popping.
Of course, nobody's going to talk about how the rapid decline and offshoring of certain industries like the Automobile industry on top of drugs, broken homes, and poverty played a major role in inner city Detroit's or inner city Baltimore's problems but it's easy to point the finger at hip hop and make a bold claim that these issues would've been resolved if rap never went mainstream in the Black community.
Taking away rap(especially negative rap) might lead to a handful of positive changes but, overall, things wouldn't be all that different as you'd expect. There's a reason why reparations is gaining popularity. There's some things that are both self-inflicted by our own community or a result of a shytty government that still owes us.
sucks for yall
I look down on these modern rappers
I look down on these modern rappers
BulletProof
Just a B@stard Living in a Suit
Its only because rappers idiolize hustlers and actual gangsters.
But most people are attracted to that fast life persona to different degrees at least ar some poibt
Thats why Goodfellas is so celebrated across demographic boundaries.
Even John Amos was a fan of John Gotti and went to his trial in support him.
Because Gotti and most Italian Americans arent racist and love that n word or anything.
But most people are attracted to that fast life persona to different degrees at least ar some poibt
Thats why Goodfellas is so celebrated across demographic boundaries.
Even John Amos was a fan of John Gotti and went to his trial in support him.
Because Gotti and most Italian Americans arent racist and love that n word or anything.
Folk love to bury their head in the sand
This is why ain’t no fix to whateve shyt yll be talkin bout. Black folk are too prideful to address shyt
I don't think there's a particular type of distinctive image that the common black man is imitating (collectively). Most black men are just regular dudes handling business and trying to make a modest living.
The thing is, the media doesn't really portray the average sort of black man. It's always some extreme that gets the spotlight and gives the impression that you have. The athlete, the rapper, etc. Anything but the everyday common upstanding black man. To the mainstream he doesn't matter.
The plight of the black community is a lot bigger than just rappers in Hollyweird.
The thing is, the media doesn't really portray the average sort of black man. It's always some extreme that gets the spotlight and gives the impression that you have. The athlete, the rapper, etc. Anything but the everyday common upstanding black man. To the mainstream he doesn't matter.
The plight of the black community is a lot bigger than just rappers in Hollyweird.
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Rappers have replaced the drug dealers because now the quick money is legal and now wit so much technology u not getting away with doing drugs and plus these new nikkas are users and not dealers…
Black folks are impatient… so quick money and the ability to spend it quick makes shyt attractive
Black folks are impatient… so quick money and the ability to spend it quick makes shyt attractive
dr. pill biden
All Star
you can look in the world and see with your own two eyes the effect hip hop has on women
*in general* square 9 to 5 chics with a lot of money enjoy thot rap vicariously—like most sociological phenomenon the rich adopt ironic or rebellious affectations and can weather the consequences better
but on the average middle to lower class female who comprise the majority of the population the outcomes on the psyche and physiology are devastating
*in general* square 9 to 5 chics with a lot of money enjoy thot rap vicariously—like most sociological phenomenon the rich adopt ironic or rebellious affectations and can weather the consequences better
but on the average middle to lower class female who comprise the majority of the population the outcomes on the psyche and physiology are devastating
So before Hip-hop life was HEAVEN for the average working class Black man?
Software
RIP Future Gohan
OPs threads are not original lmao
You been posting here since 2012 and you mean to say you haven't seen a thread like OPs before?
Tupac himself was your average coli brehSo before Hip-hop life was HEAVEN for the average working class Black man?
He would have been seen as corny in the lines of Talib Kweli, Russell Wilson and Michael B Jordan by women and many here.
He started emulating the nikkas HE SAW getting women which were the drug dealers, pimps, gang bangers and roughnecks and started sprinkling his softer personality with that and the rest history.
Women's unlogical attraction to that shyt results and men are unfortunately gonna emulate what attracts bad bytches
Mac Ten
Class of 97 !!!
Rappers used to be a product of the environment which is why u had a lot of gritty rappers like Pac, X, and Nas... I looked up to Nas when I was a kid off the strength of his social commentaries off his songs off Stillmatic.
In a another thread, I told a poster that I listened to the first Dead Prez album and learned about the word "Propaganda".
With Hip hop, we're not getting enough social commentary in the records nowadays. Most of these guys are junkies or gang members who rap as a hobby.
A rapper used to be a pillar of the community.
U had to earn your stripes, nowadays anybody can get some Pro tools and a mic and rap over a Candy Land beat and be the character that they wanted to be in the booth.
In a another thread, I told a poster that I listened to the first Dead Prez album and learned about the word "Propaganda".
With Hip hop, we're not getting enough social commentary in the records nowadays. Most of these guys are junkies or gang members who rap as a hobby.
A rapper used to be a pillar of the community.
U had to earn your stripes, nowadays anybody can get some Pro tools and a mic and rap over a Candy Land beat and be the character that they wanted to be in the booth.