Rappin' 4-Tay Doesn't Seem Too Thrilled With Drake Using His Lyrics In New Track with YG

[Taadow]

ive seen a few nikkas in here say he has to shout it out because nobody knows what song he's getting it from...

why is it drakes fault that nobody has heard that wack ass song before?

the people that were meant to get it, got it...

Why is it Elvis' fault if nobody ever heard Big Mama Thornton?

Elvis is THE KANG, and rock 'n' roll is more important than black music. Ain't that right?

 

[Illuminatos]

@ this fakkit negging me.

Sensitive ass thug. fukk your city nikka.

 

[Taadow]

Drake is just learning from that Hov school of biting

...so imma pay homage to Jay and paraphrase his line:

If y'all want the old chit, buy the old album...'cause 4-Tay's album knocked, and YGs prolly wont...

 

[Illuminatos]

Why is it Elvis' fault if nobody ever heard Big Mama Thornton?

Elvis is THE KANG, and rock 'n' roll is more important than black music. Ain't that right?

Compare Rappin 4-Tay to Elvis brehs.

 

[Taadow]

Compare Rappin 4-Tay to Elvis brehs.

LMAO...Drake was Elvis in that scenario, you stupid muthafucca.

Go sit yo' little ass down when grown folks are talkin' and maybe you'll avoid lookin' an ass like this in the future...

 

[Woodrow]

honestly... this is jay's fault. and i'm not one of those "jay-z is the reason hip-hop is dead"-ass nikkas. but still...

all the repurposing of biggie lines made it cool to do that shyt and not give credit. it works when jay does it, cause biggie was a mainstream artist. people know his lines when they hear 'em.

but now everyone does that shyt. and the audience can't keep up with everyone quoting their favorite rappers.

so u get situation's like k-dot's king of new york line (where he was quoting kurupt, who was talking in extremes, but now it doesnt matter). and this.

before jay made this shyt a trend, mc's would (usually) shout the nikka out. redman and q-tip were trading shoutouts back and forth for years. to do it any other way made u a biter. bottom line.

now.... it's not so simple.

 

[AMcV'88]

Drake could've at least shouted him out knowing this new generation won't realize where he sampled the flow from.

yeah, i mean he doesn't have to.. but a little mention to 4-Tay and Playerz Club in the verse would have been nice homage.

this my shyt..one of the 4 obvious Tay joints that are on my iPod.

i remember when blogs like Bustdafacts etc were all the rage and the old 90's youtube videos were at an all time high..the amount of albums i downloaded in that year like 05 was unreal...i was on some hip-hop nerd shyt that year and expanded my horizons to the other regions outside of NY...the wonders of the internet

 

[mobbinfms]

honestly... this is jay's fault. and i'm not one of those "jay-z is the reason hip-hop is dead"-ass nikkas. but still...

all the repurposing of biggie lines made it cool to do that shyt and not give credit. it works when jay does it, cause biggie was a mainstream artist. people know his lines when they hear 'em.

but now everyone does that shyt. and the audience can't keep up with everyone quoting their favorite rappers.

so u get situation's like k-dot's king of new york line (where he was quoting kurupt, who was talking in extremes, but now it doesnt matter). and this.

before jay made this shyt a trend, mc's would (usually) shout the nikka out. redman and q-tip were trading shoutouts back and forth for years. to do it any other way made u a biter. bottom line.

now.... it's not so simple.

Great post.
You've gotta look at the context each time an emcee borrows a line from another emcee.
Jay was the first example I could think of where he took a few bars from a non-single (I Just Wanna Love You). It was controversial at the time. Obviously they were close so you could see the paying homage aspect. But it wasn't just one line - it was a few bars. Plus it wasn't a song everyone would necessarily be familiar with. But Jay was a dope emcee - so its not like he couldn't pen hot shyt on his own.

The paying homage argument with Drake seems very shaky. It just smacks of laziness on Drake's part. Or worse. He did this twice on his own album...I guess this is his thing now - borrowing half of someone else's verse.

I find it interesting too, that a lot of the Drake stans tend to be the ones who make the ridiculous claim that hip-hop in the 90s was wack or not lyrical, but here their hero is borrowing heavily from a 90s rapper. Not even one who was considered an elite level lyricist at the time. I wonder what they think of that, or if congitive dissonance prevents from even realizing what's going on? At this point, I've got pretty much all of them on ignore, so I guess i'll never know! @Taadow - let me know if one of them says something that isn't nonsensical about that.

 

[blackslash]

Great post.
You've gotta look at the context each time an emcee borrows a line from another emcee.
Jay was the first example I could think of where he took a few bars from a non-single (I Just Wanna Love You). It was controversial at the time. Obviously they were close so you could see the paying homage aspect. But it wasn't just one line - it was a few bars. Plus it wasn't a song everyone would necessarily be familiar with. But Jay was a dope emcee - so its not like he couldn't pen hot shyt on his own.

The paying homage argument with Drake seems very shaky. It just smacks of laziness on Drake's part. Or worse. He did this twice on his own album...I guess this is his thing now - borrowing half of someone else's verse.

I find it interesting too, that a lot of the Drake stans tend to be the ones who make the ridiculous claim that hip-hop in the 90s was wack or not lyrical, but here their hero is borrowing heavily from a 90s rapper. Not even one who was considered an elite level lyricist at the time. I wonder what they think of that, or if congitive dissonance prevents from even realizing what's going on? At this point, I've got pretty much all of them on ignore, so I guess i'll never know! @Taadow - let me know if one of them says something that isn't nonsensical about that.

u got me on ignore nikka?

 

[Rekkapryde]

1 star thread. If you have never heard Playaz Club then you just started listening to hip hop a couple of years ago and you are probably a cac.

I got 4 Tay's first 2 albums....

 

[The_Hillsta]

I'd say 4Tay was probably the most successful artist outta San Francisco to get nationwide play at the time. I'd throw RBL in there also. Both those singles he had on Don't Fight The Feelin was getting heavy play on BET n MTV. To be the age this cat is right now and still do shows and open up for muthafukkaz that aint even rappers,.....Still doing songs off Don't Fight The Feelin, shyt is dope but sad at the same time. Check out this article

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/resurrection-of-rappin-4-tay/Content?oid=2394455

Would be dope if Drake do a video with this cat in it or even make some type of reference at some point. We know he aint gotta do shyt, but it would be GOOD shyt on his part if it aint too late..........New nikkaz have NO IDEA who/where Drake is liftin the shyt from but the way things are right now in the rap game, how shyt is supposed to be done is shot to the bushes without a fukk given.

Anywayz that second 4Tay album was bangin also.......Listen to the very first verse of Never Talk Down

 

[samtalksradio]

You'z an ugly black crispy looking ass nikka if that's you in your avi.

fukk yo city, nikka fukk 4tay, in fukk yo life... 4tay is a nobody just like 95% of the fakkits from the bay stay mad fakkit

 

[Xtraz2]

looks like rappin 4 tay is just low key looking for that stimulus pacckage

is this the new bay sound?



@ thiis "og" rappin with honkeys

shyt smooth

 

[Long Live The Kane]

I'd say 4Tay was probably the most successful artist outta San Francisco to get nationwide play at the time. I'd throw RBL in there also. Both those singles he had on Don't Fight The Feelin was getting heavy play on BET n MTV. To be the age this cat is right now and still do shows and open up for muthafukkaz that aint even rappers,.....Still doing songs off Don't Fight The Feelin, shyt is dope but sad at the same time. Check out this article

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/resurrection-of-rappin-4-tay/Content?oid=2394455

Would be dope if Drake do a video with this cat in it or even make some type of reference at some point. We know he aint gotta do shyt, but it would be GOOD shyt on his part if it aint too late..........New nikkaz have NO IDEA who/where Drake is liftin the shyt from but the way things are right now in the rap game, how shyt is supposed to be done is shot to the bushes without a fukk given.

Anywayz that second 4Tay album was bangin also.......Listen to the very first verse of Never Talk Down

Yeah outside of the predictable faux outrage over this sh!t , i'm sitting here at 4tay getting called some obscure nobody...Playaz Club the single in particular was a bonified hit record, absolutely nothing obscure about it...was all over radio, BET, MTV, The Box and was somewhere in the top 40 on the pop charts...hope they put dude in the video too and he gets his writing credit whenever the joint is officially released

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

This thread got long so I'm sure it turned into the bay against the booth as usual, but dude shouldn't be that salty, yet drake could've dropped 4tay's name in there simply because the disconnect between his audience and those that remember the verse