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[mson]

The booth is WOAT Hip Hop forum. Lowlight of thecoli by far.

What other forums are there?

 

[Bars4TheCause]

Oh that's why you got sensitive. It's a common thing with fatherless males around here.

and still pulling girls your age because they'll see I have an actual personality.

Right, now I got sensitive when you were just getting sensitive over the fact that neither of us were being sensitive.

Enjoy your Q-Tip

 

[SirBiatch]

Right, now I got sensitive when you were just getting sensitive over the fact that neither of us were being sensitive.

 

[Bars4TheCause]

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[SuburbanPimp]

This thread is why 95% of the music that comes out now is hot for two weeks and then forgotten..... Yeah, the beat is dope but nobody is saying any memorable or that resonates....

I get it for club songs and singles.. but you have to have something to say with your lyrics for your music to last.

Who wants to listen to complete album from a rapper who has shytty or basic lyrics? And I think that's obvious when you look at album sales these days

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

Lies. Mainstream production is some of the worst it's ever been. The quality of production is at an all time high, the bars just don't match it. GKMC, NWTS, MBDTF, ACID RAP, TPAB P, ASAPS DEBUT, all have amazing production. I listen to Drakes music simply because of production these days.

the problem is that there's no substance anymore. Or very little for that matter. I miss the days of listening to hip hop, and rewinding a bar like " did he really just say that" nowadays I rewind for beat changes, or amazing drops. The quality is just terrible right Now. You got people really trying to tell nikkas that Young Thug, is anywhere above trash. It's sad. When a nikka as garbage as him can get on and you got motherfukkers who know nothing about music, cosigning him it's terrible. And they always throw out the word "sonically" without knowing what it means, as if using that word will convince me That you know something about music. "B-b-b sonically he's on another level, you just dont see it" :pikacamby:



Fact is, lyrics are important. And it's a problem with hip hop now. Brain dead, garbage rap has its place in hip hop, but it shouldn't be at the forefront of the genre, it's supposed to be buried and dug up by losers who enjoy it. People don't want to think anymore, if it's not some easy to follow chant, than nikkas don't wanna hear it. nikkas call J.Cole boring for rapping, just rapping His ass off, yet label the young thugs and migos of the world entertaining for their random shouting and adlibs. These are the same nigggas who hated TPAB because it didn't have "bangers". New age HipHop fans are WOAT. nikkas want filler to nod their heads to.

Hip Hop,is dying right before our eyes.

this entire argument is just flat out not true at all, the underground scene is the best it has ever been before, you nikkas need to stop listening to what everybody else is bumping or what's hot or on the radio, its access to too much dope music weather its old school or current.

the best 2 releases of the last 2 years so far imo were underground albums.

 

[C.G.Jung777]

When I used to listen to music on shytty headphones, shytty stock car stereos, and shytty boomboxes as a teenager I preferred lyrics over beats for sure. Now that I consider myself an "audiophile" and will only listen to music on high quality speakers for me the lyrics are almost completely irrelevant. For me It goes:

Beat>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Flow>>>>>Lyrics


Edit: Ok this isn't entirely true, because every once in awhile I will throw in OB4CL or Liquid Swords or Illmatic and just marvel at the lyrics, because even though the beats are dope, they are recorded, mixed, and mastered so shytty that I can't really listen to them on my stereo after listening to some Steely Dan, Fleetwood Mac, Dr. Dre, Neptunes, Blue Sky Black Death, or anything else properly recorded, mixed, and mastered.

 

[mobbinfms]

a) because hip hop today is SO shyt that we're going back to older releases that were decent/trash and bigging them up

I bought Soul on Ice on release day. I got Big L's first album in 97.
I thought they were great records in real time.
And I like the production on both albums, especially L's album, which was criticized for having outdated production as the release was delayed by a couple years. That was never a problem for me in 97

 

[mobbinfms]

when he has certified hip hop classics

 

[blackslash]

This thread is totally misguided

Flow >>>>>>>>>>>> Beat >>> Lyrics

This

 

[muse]

the beat is always the first thing i listen for, then the flow, then thats when i really appreciate the song and the lyrics blow my mind. if the beat is bleh, a decent flow over it might save it. but if the beat and flow is bad, i dont even bother listening. thankfully my music taste have changed and my ear has evolved because songs i would skip immediately, have grown to be my favorite songs when i listened to them

 

[SirBiatch]

You would fix hip hop overnight if y'all went back to making soulful funky beats. That's the essence. That's were it all starts.

That trap garbage is not soulful at all nor funky. Cats in here talking about trap beats being hot got me like

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

well... Lil Wayne - A Milli became a hit while the beat is trash

 

[Professor Polo]

The greatest rappers in hip hop history have consistently rhymed on the greatest beats. Without incredible beats backing them, nobody would give a fukk about them.

Don't get it twisted - hip hop at its CORE is DJ culture. And DJs are producers/beatmakers/party starters.

Nas didn't have incredible beats backing him....and Pac didn't have crazy beats till he signed to Deathrow

a lot of 90s rappers didn't have CRAZY beats like hip hop has had post 2000



What made artists legends and what made their music stand the test of time was what they were saying first and foremost, followed by the beat; not the other way around




I may need a new forum... A lot of these Coli posters are some new age rap fans that I can't vibe with... anyone for suggestions? I keep hearing Boxden... never peeped it though.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

Lyricsm, delivery and flow is what grabs me.


Listen to "no type". Rae sremmard. It's really that catchy melodic hook you hear when you think about the song.