Mike Otherz
All Star
RD is a dope album. nothing more. its too derivative to be classic.
Reasonable Doubt is the best album the genre has produced
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the cac mamba
Veteran
imo its a classic
not the best the genres ever produced but that is a good fukkin cd
not the best the genres ever produced but that is a good fukkin cd
the whole "no one considered it classic til he told you it was..he brainwashed you!" argument is the stupidest fukking shyt i ever read. its nas stan myth. talking as if rap isn't the most braggodicous genre of music ever and that EVERY SINGLE rapper hasn't called himself the best ever , the best alive..this album is the best etc.. remember LL's GOAT album? or wayne calling himself best alive. (he may have convinced a few of you 90s babys or 1 or 2 cac blog writers but anyone with common sense laughed at it then and even more now). many things take time to be appreciated. and rap music back then was divided amongst the coast..only ny heads was really hearing it back then. its classic deal with it.
As much as I defended the classic status of RD in that other thread. This is simply not true. There is an album called the Infamous by Mobb Deep. It is the best the genre has to offer. Illmatic, Death Certificate and OBFCL are also contenders.I see you arguing about whether RD is classic or not.
It is the best album of the genre, period.
How do you differentiate between people who have heard Illmatic and have functioning hearing and thereby realize that it is a classic album and GOAT contender and those who were fed the notion and followed mindlessly?
vaudevillevillain
All Star
definitely a classic. those who claim it isn't have yet to back up their reasoning.
but in my opinion, the best album of the genre may have to be Life After Death
but in my opinion, the best album of the genre may have to be Life After Death
Adam3000
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Yo....LMAO at Soul On Ice. Talk about revisionist history....at least people liked Reasonable Doubt in '96....Soul on Ice was considered a 3 mic album at best. And personally that might even be too generous
To respond to this thread, I first need to point out to people that just because Reasonable Doubt wasn't called a classic in 96 doesn't mean it isn't a classic. Time is the true test of all albums, the ones that get better are classics and the ones that get worse are hot garbage. There are a ton of albums from the 60's and 70's looked at as some of the greatest of all time that were thought to be terrible when they were released.
I think Reasonable Doubt has shown its greatness over the years. It was underrated upon release because it was the tail end of Hip Hop's true golden era, 1988-1996. There were lots of classics that year and it got lost in the bunch. Being as Hip Hop in truly artful, album format is about 30 years old you would have to say that anything that is top 50 of all time is a classic, and RD is most definitely top 50. I would put it top 30.
All that being said, it is not the best album of all time and not in the discussion. That is pure brainwashing. There are very few contenders for GOAT album, and it takes more than 1 persons opinion to crown it. A consensus among knowledgeable, influential, intelligent critics/people would probably put these albums in contention:
Paid In Full
Straight Outta Compton
It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
Fear Of A Black Planet
The Low End Theory
The Chronic
Doggystyle
Enter The Wu Tang 36 Chambers
Illmatic
Ready To Die
The Infamous
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Endtroducing (if counted as Hip Hop)
Thats it. That isn't a personal list (mine is topped by Aquemini), but if you are going to look at things from all perspectives nothing else can be argued.
To respond to this thread, I first need to point out to people that just because Reasonable Doubt wasn't called a classic in 96 doesn't mean it isn't a classic. Time is the true test of all albums, the ones that get better are classics and the ones that get worse are hot garbage. There are a ton of albums from the 60's and 70's looked at as some of the greatest of all time that were thought to be terrible when they were released.
I think Reasonable Doubt has shown its greatness over the years. It was underrated upon release because it was the tail end of Hip Hop's true golden era, 1988-1996. There were lots of classics that year and it got lost in the bunch. Being as Hip Hop in truly artful, album format is about 30 years old you would have to say that anything that is top 50 of all time is a classic, and RD is most definitely top 50. I would put it top 30.
All that being said, it is not the best album of all time and not in the discussion. That is pure brainwashing. There are very few contenders for GOAT album, and it takes more than 1 persons opinion to crown it. A consensus among knowledgeable, influential, intelligent critics/people would probably put these albums in contention:
Paid In Full
Straight Outta Compton
It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
Fear Of A Black Planet
The Low End Theory
The Chronic
Doggystyle
Enter The Wu Tang 36 Chambers
Illmatic
Ready To Die
The Infamous
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Endtroducing (if counted as Hip Hop)
Thats it. That isn't a personal list (mine is topped by Aquemini), but if you are going to look at things from all perspectives nothing else can be argued.
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I_Got_Da_Burna
Superstar
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What genre are we talking about? Rap? Nah. Too many dope albums to pick just one.
Ready to Die & Illmatic are both better 90's NYC albums.
Mafioso Rap? Maybe
IMO it's on the same level as OB4CL, but Rae was more creative with the album structure and storytelling
Ready to Die & Illmatic are both better 90's NYC albums.
Mafioso Rap? Maybe
IMO it's on the same level as OB4CL, but Rae was more creative with the album structure and storytelling