Redemption: Official 2012 Green Bay Packers Season Thread

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GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Aaron Rodgers greeted a pair of reporters Monday and grabbed a seat after the Green Bay Packers had practiced in full pads for nearly three hours. I reached deep into my training as a journalist, searching for an original and cutting question to begin our interview.

"How's it going?" I asked.

"Good," Rodgers said. "We're good."

And then we were off.


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Aaron Rodgers is excited about the energy his teammates are bringing in the early stages of training camp."We're going to be a better team this year," Rodgers said. "We're going to play better. We'll be better up front [on defense], I think. Different attitude, I think. We brought in some guys with some nasty to them."

The Packers finished last season 15-1 before the New York Giants knocked them out of the playoffs in the divisional round. Historically speaking, it's unlikely the Packers will match or exceed last season's record. But the first few days of training camp have convinced Rodgers that the team's energy level is up, its comfort level down and a significant if underplayed flaw in last season's team has been corrected.

"I think there was a little bit of some too-comfortable mentality," he said. "One of the things that winning does is it masks some of the issues you might have. When you have a real successful season, the little things get swept under the rug and the big things become little things. It's hard to knock a team on energy and enthusiasm and effort when you're still going out and winning. But it can catch up to you at some point, and it did with us."

In retrospect, the Packers might have been too professional and clinical for their own good last season. We noted in the spring that the Packers were seeking more "juice" for their defensive front, adding excitable players like Anthony Hargrove and Daniel Muir via agency and drafting a couple of live personalities in defensive linemen Jerel Worthy and Mike Daniels.

The Packers hope those players add a level of pass rush and interior disruption that the defense missed last season. But just as important, they appear already to have injected a level of energy to the team's practices and mentality. Monday, it was worth noting that Rodgers was playfully engaging Hargrove in some verbal jousting during practice. When we spoke with Rodgers afterwards, the Packers' locker room was so loud that I could hardly hear him.

"And I'm not just talking about Hargrove," Rodgers said. "These are energy guys. Daniel Muir, Jerel Worthy, Daniels. Those guys are bringing some energy this year, and I think they are going to inspire some of the other guys, like B.J. [Raji] and [Ryan] Pickett, who aren't big energy guys -- good players, but not emotional energy guys -- maybe to pick their level up, too.

"And it's nice having a guy opposite Clay [Matthews], and because we brought in Nick Perry, I think [former starter] Erik Walden has had good start to camp as well."

I don't think Rodgers is laying the blame of last season's playoff loss at the feet of the defensive front. Put bluntly, the entire team probably needed a kick in the pants after winning Super Bowl XLV and cruising through most of the 2011 regular season. The defensive line is where it happened to manifest itself.

As we noted last week, the Packers are looking for ways to ensure that things don't usually come that easily. The Packers have more juice, for sure, and that's a start.

"We're going to play better football," Rodgers said. "It might not be 15 wins, but I think we're going to be a more sound team."

Rodgers: 'Energy' makes Packers better - NFC North Blog - ESPN
 

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Rodgers setting new QB standard as Packers gear up for season - NFL - CBSSports.com News, Rumors, Scores, Stats, Fantasy

GREEN BAY, Wisc. –- Aaron Rodgers sits comfortably at his locker and is asked about the future. The immediate future. Rodgers' belief is that these Packers will be better than last year's. Think about that for a moment.

The Packers went 15-1 after starting the season 13-0. They did things in the regular season no other Packer team had really done before. Then they lost in the divisional round to giant-killing New York which went on to beat juggernaut New England in the Super Bowl. The Packers were ballin' last year. They can be better than that?

"We're going to be a better team this year," said Rodgers. "We're going to play better. We'll be better up front [on defensive side], I think. Different attitude, I think. We brought in some guys with some nasty to them."


To Rodgers, there is something else that will help the Packers be better. He looks around the league and sees fan and media attention -- both of whom possess attention spans measured in milliseconds -- focused elsewhere. Rodgers mentions both New York teams, the Patriots, Peyton Manning, among other media fascinations of the moment, and believes that, in a strange way, the Packers are cheesing slightly under the radar. This, Rodgers says, is when the Packers play their best.

Listening to Rodgers is reminiscent of when I spoke to him several years ago during training camp before the Packers went on to win the Super Bowl and was catapulted into Packers lore. He was extremely confident the team had a championship run in them and his body language and words are eerily similar now.

But the main reason the Packers could be better than last year is because of Rodgers himself. He was the league's MVP in 2011 and already it's easy to see he's even better. Right now, no quarterback is better than Rodgers. None. Zippo.

What I'm seeing with Rodgers is something I've personally witnessed with only two other quarterbacks: Joe Montana and Dan Marino. When those two were at the top of their games almost no one was better. Not Unitas. Not Bradshaw. Not Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. No one. Montana and Marino were at a quarterback perfection precipice.

Rodgers right now is on that level.


While a myriad of young guns (Cam Newton), middle aged ones (Eli Manning) and older ones (Brady) are all obviously great, Rodgers remains the prototype for the 21st-century pass thrower. Newton may be Neo but Rodgers is the Oracle.

The reason: the two-pronged physical means of attack Rodgers can provide. He can sit in the pocket and pick apart a defense with passing accuracy that rivals Peyton Manning or Brady. But he can also roll out, using athleticism to make it look easy and, while doing that, throw with great precision.

In other words, Rodgers is part Brady and part Newton ... RodgBrewton. As franchises attempt to grapple with the rapid evolution of the position -- Robert Griffin III and Andrew Luck are both attempts at finding the next Rodgers -- the fact Rodgers is so far ahead gives Green Bay a marked advantage.

Rodgers predicted five years ago the shift from pocket passing to a more flexible pocket. That wasn't Nostradamus-type stuff but it's interesting to see he is now at the center of that prediction.

In practice this week some of the throws and footwork done by Rodgers were so textbook they should be shown to every high school quarterback in the nation. There is no wasted energy in his passing motion, and his drop back is just as efficient, down to the way his back right foot digs into the ground, the way a right-handed boxer's does when throwing a hard cross.

Even when his passes look errant, they aren't. In one drill, Rodgers tossed a backside pass to the left corner of the end zone. It looked like an overthrow but Rodgers knew wide receiver Donald Driver could out-jump the corner and Driver did, making the catch with one hand.

When Rodgers was asked about the playoff loss to New York, his answer was quick, and slightly irritated. "Playoff game ...," he said, "we just turned the ball over." It didn't sound like Rodgers was refusing to give the Giants credit. Sounded more like the anger from the loss was still there.

"I think there was a little bit of some too comfortable mentality," Rodgers explained. "One of the things that winning does is it masks some of the issues you might have. When you have a real successful season, the little things get swept under the rug and the big things become little things. It's hard to knock a team on energy and enthusiasm and effort when you're still going out and winning. But it can catch up to you at some point, and it did with us."

Green Bay's schedule is nasty (opens against San Francisco, Chicago, Seattle, New Orleans) but not overly horrible. Rodgers may be right in that the Packers could be better but win fewer games.

If they do get better it will be because of Rodgers who continues to be the standard for the position.

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*slides into front row seat*

what it do brehs! redemption??? eh....

*puts head on pillow* look we went 15-1 last year...I'm not even about to get butt hurt about it. But wake me up when finley's overrated ass starts catching the football.

I'm more hurt over the cullen jenkins loss than I am over losing in the playoffs. The loss was a fluke. The Jenkins shyt was absolutely inexcusable.
 

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Ladies and gentlemen, this is the battle to watch in the Green Bay Packers' training camp. The right cornerback spot opposite Tramon Williams is open for tryouts - and four players could be in the picture.

Bush began training as the starter. House supplanted him Tuesday. And in the Packers' dime package, both Hayward and House have gotten first-team reps.

Nothing is written in stone. For now, House leads the pack.

House winning battle at Packers' hot corner - JSOnline

Interested to see who wins this battle :leon:

Gonna be sad not seeing Charles there..even though he finna :win: at safety.
 

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House winning battle at Packers' hot corner - JSOnline

Interested to see who wins this battle :leon:

Gonna be sad not seeing Charles there..even though he finna :win: at safety.

Charles will line up at FS in the base but we don't use the base all the time. They line up in nickel about 75% of the time with different sub packages. Charles will still be in his role at the slot most of the game like he has been since 2009 and one of the younger safeties we drafted or from last year (like an M.D. Jennings) will line up at FS.
 

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:sitdown: we swept ya'll last season... and beat ya'll in the NFCCG... ALL IN THE SAME CALENDAR YEAR.

*slides into front row seat*

what it do brehs! redemption??? eh....

*puts head on pillow* look we went 15-1 last year...I'm not even about to get butt hurt about it. But wake me up when finley's overrated ass starts catching the football.

I'm more hurt over the cullen jenkins loss than I am over losing in the playoffs. The loss was a fluke. The Jenkins shyt was absolutely inexcusable.

Cullen Jenkins leaving for a contact that averaged $5 million a season left me like :damn: TT for not atleast being aggressive to match what the Eagles were shelling out or give the nikka more upfront money to help the squad out with the extensions of young guys coming up for extensions

Its all good though, the defense has a chip on they shoulders and some of the new linemen like Daniels, Worthy, Muir, and Hargrove are bringing in a positive energy in camp... hopefully it wakes up Raji and Pickett :evil:
 

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:sitdown: we swept ya'll last season... and beat ya'll in the NFCCG... ALL IN THE SAME CALENDAR YEAR.



Cullen Jenkins leaving for a contact that averaged $5 million a season left me like :damn: TT for not atleast being aggressive to match what the Eagles were shelling out or give the nikka more upfront money to help the squad out with the extensions of young guys coming up for extensions

Its all good though, the defense has a chip on they shoulders and some of the new linemen like Daniels, Worthy, Muir, and Hargrove are bringing in a positive energy in camp... hopefully it wakes up Raji and Pickett :evil:

:rudy:

We almost beat yall with Caleb Hanie in that NFCCG...You shouldnt be bragging bout that one

Yall were 2-0 last yr against us I'll give u that....but yall were also 13-1 against the rest of the league so I dont feel bad. And we know how yall finished :dead:

Yall obviously gotta good team tho. This yr in the NFC North is gon be good. Is Woodson really moving to safety tho. I hate ya squads guts but CW is a baller, I'd be worried about that move if i was cheesehead fan.
 

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We almost beat yall with Caleb Hanie in that NFCCG...You shouldnt be bragging bout that one
Yall were 2-0 last yr against us I'll give u that....but yall were also 13-1 against the rest of the league so I dont feel bad. And we know how yall finished :dead:

Yall obviously gotta great team tho. This yr in the NFC North is gon be good

our boys just got a little comfortable and were having too much fun out there :smugfavre:
 

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We extended Masthay today: 4 year, $5.465m extension, $1.2m Signing Bonus.

Family Night tonight :win:
 
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