Refresh my memory, how good was Grant Hill
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courtdog
Drinks Blood from a Boot
Damn, I see a bunch of ppl saying the same shyt.
I never really thought about it, but yeah. Grant was Lebron Lite
And that might not even be fair because Lebron uses his mass to bully ppl to the rim
Grant had to earn his more off of speed/talent than just brute force, so its even MORE impressive
If Grant didn't get hurt, and left Detroit to join up on a "super team" he would have won titles too imo
I never really thought about it, but yeah. Grant was Lebron Lite
And that might not even be fair because Lebron uses his mass to bully ppl to the rim
Grant had to earn his more off of speed/talent than just brute force, so its even MORE impressive
If Grant didn't get hurt, and left Detroit to join up on a "super team" he would have won titles too imo
eastside313
Superstar
Your post was on point til you went and said that dumb shyt at the end. Detroit didn't dump Grant. Joe D was at that nikka hard trying to get him to resign, but much like his super-saiyan off spring, he elected to vacate his midwest surroundings and take his talents to the Florida sun to attempt to form a super team with T-Mac and Duncan. But of course Duncan staying in San Antonio and Hills ankle fukked it all up.
The only reason it was a sign and trade was so that Grant could get more money. The fact that the deal became the foundation for Detroit's championship run is just a lucky by product and terrible attempt at revisionist history if viewed otherwise.
And the Bron comparison's are probably the closest. Grant's game is like the little brother to Lebron's. Clearly not as explosive athletically or as a scorer, but the overall games are very similar. Lebron is just without question better. I wouldn't put him above Durant either, because while Grant had a better all around game, I don't think he excelled at the other facets that much more than Durant. However Durant is a much better scorer imo. I think he'd be a notch below those guys if he was dropped in the current NBA.
I wouldn't even call him a #2 , which I think to many people are quick to do these days. His issue is he never really had a legit #2 -5. Houston seemed like he was on his way, then he bolted for NY. Brian Williams/Bison Dele was a lil out there, then went the way of the SS Minnow with the help of his brother. After that his best teammates were probably Stackhouse (1 yr), Terry Mills, an old ass Joe D, Lindsey Hunter and a few other non descript nikkas. His game was very much capable of being #1 caliber. His last year with the Pistons, where in addition to the swiss army like game, he had honed his scoring prowess was
. He basically had put it all together, post game, killer mid-range, great off the dribble and could snatch the reb and run the offense. This nikkas no carry cross-over and first step were
too. He was a bonafide superstar on and off the court.
You almost made me shed a tear
Grant hill and Lindsey hunter attacking the rim like wild dogs with Allan Houston out on the wing shooting 40% from 3 point range. 
with joe D showing them boys the way. Damn we was onto to something back then.
lochead
All Star
The disrespect some people are showing Grant Hill... 
Son was a monster on the court, period. And let's kill the talk of a prime Grant Hill, because the saddest thing about it is we never got to see a prime Grant Hill. We got six seasons and then his ankle robbed us of what would've been one of the all time great careers.
Son was a monster on the court, period. And let's kill the talk of a prime Grant Hill, because the saddest thing about it is we never got to see a prime Grant Hill. We got six seasons and then his ankle robbed us of what would've been one of the all time great careers.
thatrapsfan
Superstar
Dudes saying Grant Hill was equivalent to Paul George and Brandon Roy 
Bron was talked about as not having a killer instinct too and looked how that has ended. If Grant would have stayed healthy he would have deaded all that talk and him and T-mac would have made multiple deep playoff runs i think. We never got to see Grant with a real good team to see what he would do with comparable talent on his team with him.
The disrespect some people are showing Grant Hill...
Son was a monster on the court, period. And let's kill the talk of a prime Grant Hill, because the saddest thing about it is we never got to see a prime Grant Hill. We got six seasons and then his ankle robbed us of what would've been one of the all time great careers.
^^This..... he was really just starting to hit his prime....the run in Orlando he and T Mac would've/could've had....
malbaker86
Gators
True indeed. I think that not only he was misdiagnosed when it comes to his ankle in Detroit, he was trying to tough it out to show peeps he had heart. Sad shyt
8 or 9 points is a big gap tho, epecially when you consider that Durant is WAY more efficient and plays with Russell Westbrook(and harden last year).
As for Scottie Pippen him and Grant are comparable scorers, I would say grant is slightly better in that regard. Scottie played his entire prime as the 2 option to Jordan and was putting up similar PPG to Hill when he was in his prime. Hill just had the big year where he dropped 26 a game.
MooseMouthMthafuga
Veteran
You had to have been there.Penny had a certain charisma to his game that a lot of players don't have nh.
Even though he had cutting edge athletic ability, his game was crafty as fukk.
He had that "old man" game, but with the flair of 5 star athlete.
You normally don't see that in highly athletic basketball prospects these days.The fundamentals of the game has to catch up to the athleticism.
Penny came into the league looking polished in all aspects of the game.
When's the last time you saw a wing player routinely use both hands going to the rim?Back to the basket game?Post up?...face up?...top 3 court vision in the league?The footwork and craftiness to be able to create enough room to get your shot off smoothly?...against any defender...even all time greats like MJ & Pip? If you've seen it, it was more than likely done by a high caliber player like Kobe or Bron.
Penny had that.From a fundamental/skill/athleticism standpoint, the only "modern" player doing it as good or better than Penny is Kobe....Lebron is getting there.I'm not saying Penny is better than Bron, but Penny's all around game was more polished IMO.Bron is a athletic phenomenon, but his fundamentals/ mechanics are a lil rugged some times.Even then, Bron is shytting on Penny from a raw talent standpoint.
You had to have been there, bruh.Penny was that dude.All around game....plus the Jersey and shoes were dope as fukk, too
And a lot of cats in here are either showing how young they are or their lack of basketball knowledge with some of the comparisons i see to Grant. Hill shouldnt be disrespected to be compared to the likes of Rudy Gay or Paul George. Grant had a better ROOKIE season than either of these guys have ever had. He may not have been better than KD but its much closer than a lot of people seem to think. And he is definitely a better player than Melo. If Melo aint scoring he is not effecting the game. If Hills shot was not falling he could still get 10 assists or just bang the boards all night. He was so much smarter than a lot of these players and that is what made him better. The difference between someone like him and a Josh Smith or a Rudy Gay is that he is not a great three point shooter just like they arent. So he knew that there was no reason for him to be shooting three or four 3s a game. Why shoot a shot that you may hit once in four times, when you can get in the paint a get a guaranteed bucket or foul most of the time.
