Refresh my memory, how good was Grant Hill

[Ronnie Lott]

This good

I used to have these joints!

 

[Ronnie Lott]

 

[The Bilingual Gringo]

Overall great player, could have been better w/o injuries and all that.

I have Northern VA bias though.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Grant HIll was giving you 21-9-7 on 50% shooting in his prime. Dudes quickly forget. He wasn't the scorer/shooter like KD, but hill is better at every of facet of the game. Same with Melo

 

[FreddyCalhoun]

The only thing Grant Hill has in Common with Brandon Roy is Light skin...

He was Brandon Roy

 

[FreddyCalhoun]

Yeah..McDyess is a Olympian before that injury....

I always look at it like this:

Grant Hill was the next better version of Scottie Pippen or Lebron before Lebron except he's not as big and strong (physically) as Lebron. He had

• Pippen's speed but slightly faster
• Pippen and Lebron's court awareness
• Not as great defensively as either of the two but still a GREAT defender
• THe one place he was clearly better than both was his post-up game.
• His jumper needed work but was still decent

Dude was destined to be a mega start for real. Then came the injuries

That b!tch named Injury done robbed us of many great athletes yo. Antonio McDyess is another example of a superstar that we never saw reach his potential due to injury.

 

[J-MIL]

He was bron without the strength and size.

His handles were ........I used to copy his crossover on the court. Grant Hill was fukkin nice, he had the goat commercials as well

I had the OG fila joints too

 

[NatiboyB]

duncan was not better than hill, either.
duncan came into the league on a higher pedigree'd and coached ball club.
from argueably one of the best mobile centers in the history of the nba.
who was only hobbled by injury, in david robinson.
plus got to ramp up as a pro.
with a much longer college tenure.
where he was given the most attention, and easily the best wakeforest player, ever.
hill was a second tier also-ran, on duke.
with no superstar pedigree of note in college at all whatsoever.
besides being on a duke ball club.
where even there he did not achieve past the positive pr. which was only bestowed on him because he was a player of the championship duke system.
to immediately coming into the league and willed a scrub detroit team, to an immediate improvement.
by ramping up from the time of the end of the duke post season.
to the nba draft and start of the season.
no other player in nba history.
ramped up as much as hill did between the end of march madness.

grant hill, argueably could be the highest actualized ramped up superstar in any sport's history.


art barr

4 Breh. Grant was the second best player on duke behind Christian Lattener as a freshman he was the 3rd pick in a super strong draft and expected to be a star. He was in the running for the National Player of the year as I recall. He did improve facets of his game but let's not act like he was Russell Westbrook or Jrue Holiday. Those dudes are ramped up. No one expected this out of UCLA.

Don't disrespect pre-injury Grant Hill by comparing him to Roy. No time at all was ROY top 10. He was barely a top 5 SG.

 

[THE K-MAN]

Did yall really just compare prime Grant Hill to Rudy fukkin Gay???

 

[NormanConnors]

Durant may have a better jumpshot but that's it. Grant hill was a triple double machine that did whatever he wanted to on the court. He was Lebron but 40 pounds lighter so he didn't have that strength.

Grant used to cross and posterize cats on the regular too, one of the best finishers of all time. mid range game was sick too, he could do it all

 

[eastside313]

Grant used to cross and posterize cats on the regular too, one of the best finishers of all time

And it was so effortless

 

[dontreadthis]

his first step was insane....

 

[NormanConnors]

Your post was on point til you went and said that dumb shyt at the end. Detroit didn't dump Grant. Joe D was at that nikka hard trying to get him to resign, but much like his super-saiyan off spring, he elected to vacate his midwest surroundings and take his talents to the Florida sun to attempt to form a super team with T-Mac and Duncan. But of course Duncan staying in San Antonio and Hills ankle fukked it all up.

The only reason it was a sign and trade was so that Grant could get more money. The fact that the deal became the foundation for Detroit's championship run is just a lucky by product and terrible attempt at revisionist history if viewed otherwise.

And the Bron comparison's are probably the closest. Grant's game is like the little brother to Lebron's. Clearly not as explosive athletically or as a scorer, but the overall games are very similar. Lebron is just without question better. I wouldn't put him above Durant either, because while Grant had a better all around game, I don't think he excelled at the other facets that much more than Durant. However Durant is a much better scorer imo. I think he'd be a notch below those guys if he was dropped in the current NBA.

I wouldn't even call him a #2 , which I think to many people are quick to do these days. His issue is he never really had a legit #2 -5. Houston seemed like he was on his way, then he bolted for NY. Brian Williams/Bison Dele was a lil out there, then went the way of the SS Minnow with the help of his brother . After that his best teammates were probably Stackhouse (1 yr), Terry Mills, an old ass Joe D, Lindsey Hunter and a few other non descript nikkas. His game was very much capable of being #1 caliber. His last year with the Pistons, where in addition to the swiss army like game, he had honed his scoring prowess was . He basically had put it all together, post game, killer mid-range, great off the dribble and could snatch the reb and run the offense. This nikkas no carry cross-over and first step were too. He was a bonafide superstar on and off the court.

i agree with all of this, except the only thing Durant had over Grant is that he was a better shooter from 3pt. Everything else Grant was superior imo

 

[courtdog]

What was his game like in his prime and where do you think he'd rank if he didn't get injured?

I'm drawing blanks

Real Talk, Grant Hills game was similar to Lebron's. He just wasn't as big mass wise, but he basically played the same way
Had a slightly better jumper

 

[malbaker86]

A lot of crazy talk from both sides

Grant Hill was a VERY GOOD player and was supposed to be the face of the league after MJ retired. He was labeled soft cause he aint really have that DOG in him

This is it. He was absolutely a monster but even tho i'm 26, I do remember talk about him not having that killer instinct