religion of peace, peace

[sfgiants]

Looks like a bunch of demons across the world are jealous Islam is the truth and have started up fights. But in the end Islam will prevail, since it is the will of God

especially in afghanistan. right?

 

[50CentStan]

especially in afghanistan. right?

What about Afghanistan? I don't know how religious they are, but those guys haven't lost a war yet , I guess they've been since Alexander the great days.

 

[sfgiants]

What about Afghanistan? I don't know how religious they are, but those guys haven't lost a war yet , I guess they've been since Alexander the great days.

yup

#winning

 

[50CentStan]

yup

#winning

Amazing how people living in that much poverty have been taking down powerful demons for over 30 year.

 

[theworldismine13]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You can diss a ton of men who were more beneficial to our communities that you probably ever will be if you like. That's your choice. I'm not gonna get on here and diss MLK simply because he was preaching Christianity 2 sec after Christianity was forced on Slaves. I recognizing things for what they are - and I realize that it's difficult to get people to understand things when they don't full know what they're talking about.

you can take it as a diss, but im not aware of me dissing anybody, im simply making a critique, which is something different, and the purpose of my critique was to make an improvemnt, which is what a critique usually is for

the historical fact is that islam has a history of slavery, genocide and imperialism in africa that is just as long as white christianity

so therefore the fact is an arab name is just as much a slave name as an anglo saxon name, so what malcom x and muhammed ali did under the tutelage of elijah muhammad was a mistake

its important to critique this so that more black people do not make the same mistake, if we are going to change our names we should change it to actual african names, specifically it should be traditional west african names which is where we come from

so i would like to request that you stop accusing me of insulting or dissing black leaders, i have respect for malcolm x and Muhammad ali, but that respect doesn't and shouldn't prevent me from making a critique of some of their actions and from learning from their mistakes

For example, I wouldn't decide to not practice some Congolese religion simply because my people are from the Sudan and long ago the Congo concurred the entire Nile region. That would be idiotic. If that belief is what I felt connected to -then that's what I would practice. Sure there may be some individuals with the same skin color as me that would diss my choice. But I know that these individuals will never do anything beneficial to our communities. I would be able to tell by how they promote the imperialist actions of the current enemies of my people that they are coming from a very manipulative angle in the first place. Actions are more important than simply talking.. but talking is important - and these muthfukkas will never do actions or talking anywhere but on the WWW. In that instance, I would simply regard those people as misinformed, because obviously just because the Congolese wanted to occupy and oppress the Nile region that doesn't mean that whatever random belief system they held at that millisecond in history is indicative and catalytic to those invasions.

you can choose whatever belief system you want, what i was saying is that you shouldn't try hide the history of the belief system that you choose and im just pointing out that islam has a history of slavery, genocide and imperialism

and again your religious choice as an individual choice, if that is your personal choice that is fine but if you put it in racial terms then you open up the door to exploring the the racial history of the religion

in other words, if you choose islam because you find it spiritually beneficial that is fine, but when you try to say you choose islam because as a black victim of white christian racism you chose to thumb your nose at white christianity, that is a problem because in terms of slavery, racism, genocide and imperialism, islam is essentially the same as christianity

Also, I would like to add that you really can't get on here and say what you feel should or shouldn't have to do with the black race. You are the same person who doesn't even like the black race. You only like the elites of the black race when you're too broke to even be considered an elitist. Your an elitist in mentality only. That mentality includes : "lets throw our black American culture.. all aspects of it, and replace it will strictly anglo-saxon rooted cultures. Lets support all imperialism from the West, support Western control and influence in Africa, lets support throwing the majority of black youth in the bushes because they were influenced by urban social economic situations, so developed an compatible culture. Let unrealistically all go to Charter schools and leave the majority of black youth behind... Let's diss our best leaders because most of them weren't atheist. Etc.

this is just you putting words in my mouth

what i have said is that we need to improve black culture to make it more academically oriented and i said that black people have let corporate america define black culture and we need to get back to what delores tucker said which is that black music has to be positive, where is the hate in that? the reality is that you are confusing a critique of black culture as an insult, a critique is not an insult, a critique is way of improving

as far as urban culture what i have said is that we need to get back to original culture started by Kool Herc and African Bambatta

we need to use the definition by KRS One

True Hip Hop is a term that describes the independent collective consciousness of a specific group of inner-city people. Ever growing, it is commonly expressed through such elements as: Breakin’, Emceein’, Grafiti art, Dee Jayin’ Beatboxin’, Street Fashion, Street Language, Street Knowledge and Street Entrepreneurialism. Hiphop is not just music and dance, nor is Hip Hop a product to be bought and sold. Discovered by Kool DJ Herc in the Bronx, New York around 1972, and established as a community of peace, love, unity and having fun by Afrika Bambaataa through the Zulu Nation in 1974, Hip Hop is an independent and unique community, an empowering behavior, and an international culture.”

the current rap music being put out by corporate america does not meet this definition of hip hop IMO, and its not sufficiently positive and creative so therefore i do think we need to reject it

as far as westen imperialism, i think people always get confused about what i am saying and forgot that my actual point is that black people need to focus on controlling and dominating the united states economically and politically, its under that frame of reference that i support american domination in the world

and i also support increasing trade amongst black people worldwide, so by definition that would mean increased trade between the us, caribbean and africa and that also means fully embracing capitalism and participating in the capital markets of the world

so in my opinion my "pro american" stances are fully compatible with being pro black

as far as charter schools, i dont support leaving anybody behind, i support the destruction of the current public school system and replacing the entire system with independent charter schools and private school vouchers, the public schools that are doing good can continue and the ones that arent should be shut down, i think this will open options for black educators that have new ideas, it will open up options for black parents about what school their kids go to and it will open up business opportunities for black people that want to start schools in black neighborhoods, its not leaving anybody behind, my idea will make it so that black people control black education

 

[DonKnock]

interesting, that must be why theres such a strong pushback when muslims try to implement that disgusting excuse for a way to live called sharia law

Islamic Sharia Law Comes to Great Britain - World - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

 

[Marlostanfield.]

Spirituality is peace. Once you and your godly nature one, peace shall be.

 

[Menelik II]

islam "religion of peace" is 100%

Jainism -yes, Buddhism -maybe, but Islam? :drakelaugh1:

 

[Jimi Swagger]

islam "religion of peace" is 100%

Jainism or Buddhism yes, but Islam? :drakelaugh1:

Can't judge a religion by a few people. Some Buddhists are just as "peaceful" as Christians, Muslims, Agnostics, Atheists, Animist...





Muslim member of Myanmar ruling party is shot dead at airport

Burmese government calls genocide allegations 'fake news'

 

[Menelik II]

Can't judge a religion by a few people. Some Buddhists are just as "peaceful" as Christians, Muslims, Agnostics, Atheists, Animist...


Muslim member of Myanmar ruling party is shot dead at airport

Burmese government calls genocide allegations 'fake news'

it's not a few people its a significant portion, and in some cases majority.

i wouldn't call a religion where a significant percentage of people think to sharia law of chopping off hands, stoning adulterers, and killing apostates should adhered to "religion of peace".

 

[Jimi Swagger]

it's not a few people its a significant portion, and in some cases majority.

i wouldn't call a religion where a significant percentage of people think to sharia law of chopping off hands, stoning adulterers, and killing apostates should adhered to "religion of peace".

Define a significant amount? These are the incidents that you are aware of. If an outsider were to judge the US as Christian that was established by claiming the original inhabitants savages by a Pope's decree with massacre and genocide they would have the same views as some do Islam. Currently, this nation detains and tortures people in Guantanamo in addition to 800 bases in 70 countries to maintain its democratic principles.

Different between extremism and most countries do not practice Wahhabism and sharia is the law of Islam and has conformed to modern times just as Christianity has evolved. People will distort things to their benefit no matter what the religion. I have not encountered any issues traveling or living in Muslim countries. If you show respect, you get respect and there are bad people everywhere.

 

[Menelik II]

Define a significant amount? These are the incidents that you are aware of. If an outsider were to judge the US as Christian that was established by claiming the original inhabitants savages by a Pope's decree with massacre and genocide they would have the same views as some do Islam. Currently, this nation detains and tortures people in Guantanamo in addition to 800 bases in 70 countries to maintain its democratic principles.

egypt 50% believe "death to apostates" or "stoning women"
malaysia 50%
jordan 60% etc etc

 

[Jimi Swagger]

egypt 50% believe "death to apostates" or "stoning women"
malaysia 50%
jordan 60% etc etc

I lived in El Minya, more traditional than Northern Egypt, and have family there. There are more people in the States that believe in the death penalty, including my father. Does that mean there are mobs of Christians seeking vengeance for who they deem are wrong doers without due process? Perhaps, but to my knowledge not since Red Summer of 1919. Are there people currently sentenced to death by the state in the US, yes just like Egypt and any other country.

Lets not talk about the 1/3 of women who have had hands laid on them in relationships by men in the US and stoning is also permitted in Deuteronomy. As I mentioned these nations have progressed such as European and American. Travel more, not just to vacation destinations, military bases and cosmopolitan cities. The world is much different than what we are taught.

 

[Menelik II]

I lived in El Minya, more traditional than Northern Egypt, and have family there. There are more people in the States that believe in the death penalty, including my father. Does that mean there are mobs of Christians seeking vengeance for who they deem are wrong doers without due process? Perhaps, but to my knowledge not since Red Summer of 1919. Are there people currently sentenced to death by the state in the US, yes just like Egypt and any other country.

Lets not talk about the 1/3 of women who have had hands laid on them in relationships by men in the US and stoning is also permitted in Deuteronomy. As I mentioned these nations have progressed such as European and American. Travel more, not just to vacation destinations, military bases and cosmopolitan cities. The world is much different than what we are taught.

you're bringing up a load of irrelevant ideas and false equivalences. this thread is about islam but you're bringing up Christianity and wife beating in America??

Its pretty simple, a certain percentage of muslims believe in the word of the quran and sharia, and so hence think the sins should be met with the atrocious penalties laid out in the doctrine. It's not rocket science, and its not a small small proportion of the muslim population
I have have given you facts from an international study but you ignore them

 

[Jimi Swagger]

you're bringing up a load of irrelevant ideas and false equivalences. this thread is about islam but you're bringing up Christianity and wife beating in America??

Its pretty simple, a certain percentage of muslims believe in the word of the quran and sharia, and so hence think the sins should be met with the atrocious penalties laid out in the doctrine. It's not rocket science, and its not a small small proportion of the muslim population
I have have given you facts from an international study but you ignore them

I did the same about Christians in America We will agree to disagree. Again travel. The world is much different than what you been told. The same things you spew about Muslims is the same as some ignorant Muslims think about Americans. That is my point. Stoning is ordained in the Bible also but not enforced. Sharia is not enforced or practiced in it's original sense just as American law, based on English common law, with Christian origins has evolved.