Rep. Omar: Trump's stimulus did more for Americans than Democrats' slimmed-down package

[Jekyll]

Biden’s Final Pitch To Georgia: Vote Blue And $2,000 Checks Will ‘Go Out The Door Immediately’

Where is the money?

Biden’s Final Pitch To Georgia: Vote Blue And $2,000 Checks Will ‘Go Out The Door Immediately’

This is something we went over in American Gov. in 7th grade:

Filibusters and cloture - LegBranch


The stimulus had a chance of going out immediately if 10 of 50 republican senators voted for it. 0 of 50 voted for it so they had to use the reconciliation process which is usually a couple months long.


This will probably be signed this weekend or early next week. Could’ve been signed Friday but R Senator Ron Johnson forced a verbal reading of the full bill which is 950 something pages long.



And its also important to note that this stimulus wouldn’t be happening at all under Republicans...

 

[mobbinfms]

Your last statement is false depending on who wins the runoff of that particular seat. If anything, they need to be concerned about Diane Feinstein who've they been hiding as she's giving off Alzheimer vibes for a while now.

You are right. It depends on the state because the Governor would appoint the Senator until a special election. If Manchin dies tomorrow, Democrats are done. We would be fine if Feinstein retires.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

So there is no difference between him and Bernie Sanders? Yes, they are both Democrats, but they have very different beliefs.

There's no difference between them whatsoever in a two party system. You're either a Republican or Democrat.

Progressive, Moderate, Dino or none of that other shyt is going to be next to a candidates name on the ballot.

 

[mobbinfms]

There's no difference between them whatsoever in a two party system. You're either a Republican or Democrat.

This is false. They don’t hold all the same beliefs. They have not voted the same.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BERNIE SANDERS AND MANCHIN.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

You are right. It depends on the state because the Governor would appoint the Senator until a special election. If Manchin dies tomorrow, Democrats are done. We would be fine if Feinstein retires.

That's why they are in a bind when it comes to Manchin. They need his vote, so they have no other choice but to give in to his demands. They can't throw him under the bus and call him out publicly without giving Republicans ammunition to take his seat in the future. Just because he has Republican tendencies doesn't mean that they won't form like Voltron to take him out if it means his seat becoming fully on the Republican side.

Trump was calling out members of his own party during the GA runoff race and you see what the end result was. You can't throw members of your own party under the bus. Regardless of whether its on the Republican or Democrat side.

 

[NatiboyB]

Dudes have literally showed you the proof that they said $2,000 yet you're still jumping through mental gymnastics

I promise you that it's okay to say that they lied while also still being a Democrat lol. You don't have to defend and cape for their every actions.

I don’t do politics both sides are full of shyt to me...don’t be upset with me because I understood that we were not getting an additional $2000 to go along with the prior $600. I always understood it to be an additional $1400....people are on YouTube and the news daily keeping track of this stuff. Maybe I did more research but it’s clearly been discussed that it was an additional $1400. Sure $2000 would of been cool. But that wasn’t happening.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

This is false. They don’t hold all the same beliefs. They have not voted the same.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BERNIE SANDERS AND MANCHIN.

Bernie Sanders and Manchin both have a D next to their name for Democrats. That's who they are and will be considered as on the ballot.

That's my point. Calling Bernie a Progressive or Manchin a Dino Dem doesn't mean as long as they are a Democrat. That's what comes with a two party system.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I don’t do politics both sides are full of shyt to me...don’t be upset with me because I understood that we were not getting an additional $2000 to go along with the prior $600. I always understood it to be an additional $1400....people are on YouTube and the news daily keeping track of this stuff. Maybe I did more research but it’s clearly been discussed that it was an additional $1400. Sure $2000 would of been cool. But that wasn’t happening.

Again that's you though. The millions of people who flocked to vote in the GA runoff races would say otherwise. Even dudes on this site were telling people to go out and vote so we could get the $2,000 on the next stimulus bill. Ossoff and Warnock flat out said $2,000 if they won those GA races.

Get mad at the politicians for their wording instead of the people who listening to what they said. You're not holding them accountable which makes them embolden to do the things that they do.

 

[mobbinfms]

Bernie Sanders and Manchin both have a D next to their name for Democrats. That's who they are and will be considered as on the ballot.

No one is disputing this.
They are also both men. Both white. I don’t think that is in dispute either.
But when you look at their beliefs and their voting record. They are quite different, despite both being white male Democrats.
Do you acknowledge that?

 

[Da King]

What you gonna do with that 1400?

this “nikka” wishes he was still in chains

 

[Jekyll]

Bernie Sanders and Manchin both have a D next to their name for Democrats. That's who they are and will be considered as on the ballot.

That's my point. Calling Bernie a Progressive or Manchin a Dino Dem doesn't mean as long as they are a Democrat. That's what comes with a two party system.

You’re right in one sense but this is misleading. The GOP and the Democratic party operate completely different.

The GOP moves more like one organization that unifies under one leader and mostly all go in his direction. The Democratic party is less of a unified party and more of a big tent of different groups with competing priorities.

There’s a “two party” system but it really just boils down to one unified party and then the everybody else party.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

No one is disputing this.
They are also both men. Both white. I don’t think that is in dispute either.
But when you look at their beliefs and their voting record. They are quite different, despite both being white male Democrats.
Do you acknowledge that?

I acknowledge it, but again what does it matter?

Bernie is a Progressive, but a Democrat.
AOC is a progressive, but a Democrat.
Manchin is a Dino Dem with Republican tendencies, but a Democrat.

There are multiple parties out here, but they have to be either a Democrat or Republican to stand a chance of winning an election. That's what people wanted with the two party system and whines when other people mention voting third party. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

You’re right in one sense but this is misleading. The GOP and the Democratic party operate completely different.

The GOP moves more like one organization that unifies under one leader and mostly all go in his direction. The Democratic party is less of a unified party and more of a big tent of different groups with competing priorities.

There’s a “two party” system but it really just boils down to one unified party and then the everybody else party.

If that's the case, then people need to quit complaining when someone on this site mentions voting third party. You cannot complain about the two party system, but then complain when someone else wants to vote third party and give rise to another option in the political world.

 

[BiggWebb79]

This thread is just a bunch of people yapping into the void with no context or numbers at all. Its not “Democrats” that are changing the bills. Its conservative members of congress which also includes people like Joe Manchin. You can’t pressure people like him that come from deep red states in the first place.


This all falls back to the lackluster Senate results. Winning GA gives Democrats a chance to pass stuff, which is more than they had before under McConnell but they still have to have a perfect 50 votes to even be in position. Typically you would want to win the Senate with at least 55 votes. It requires 60 to pass most bills. We only have 50.

Yeah this is common sense and common sense doesn't work on this board.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Yeah this is common sense and common sense doesn't work on this board.

Which is why the election season was an L for them and why Nancy were throwing Progressives under the bus when they lost the November elections. If Trump didn't say the $2,000, then those two GA seats were likely going to be split with Warnock winning and Ossoff losing.