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Report: Lakers to consider De'Aaron Fox with 2nd pick in draft
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Yeah, but in the NBA, shooting is more valuable than it is in college.
No doubt fox is better in a one on one matchup than Lonzo. He's faster, quicker, better handles, more explosive.
But it's not a one on one tournament. So you gotta figure out who helps you build a better team.
I'm not even saying the answer is Lonzo, because I'm not sure it is. But the fact that Fox can't (or won't) throw it in the ocean from beyond 10 feet is a concern in today's NBA.
? fox isn't a great shooter but he improved drastically by tournament time. lonzos shooting form is completely jacked, he couldn't even get a jumper off on us in our tournament game
Aba_juggin
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How would t wolves have given us okafor?I wish the T-Wolves did that with us for Okafor...Lakers would gladly take Towns.
Yeah Boston, go ahead and take Ball, we will take Fultz
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Celtics would be crazy as hell to make that deal. Why trade a potential super star to another team and, not just anyteam but, one that's already on the rise with young talent in your OWN division?
Reid2Achieve
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At the time everyone thought Okafor was who the Lakers wanted badly. So the Wolves could have tried to select him to trade down to the Lakers, thinking they could snag more assets out of the Lakers. If you're picking number 1 and there is a consensus number 1 pick, you shouldn't over think it.
Besides, you never truly know who the other team will pick, as evidenced by the Lakers surprising most people and picking Russell instead of Okafor.
Of course if the Wolves picked Okafor first, Lakers surely would have taken Towns. If the Celtics take Ball, Lakers are probably taking Fultz, the concensus #1 guy. Celtics would be outsmarting themselves.
Revisionist history here. Nobody had any idea where Thon Maker would be drafted. Lot of mock drafts had him either in the 20's or even in the Second round. People were weary about the age controversy and competition he played against. Thankfully for the Bucks it worked out, however you're forgetting how much of a shock it was that he was drafted 10th overall.
Actually no. I was saying Thon Maker should go #2 overall to the Lakers last year before the draft. I said he was the only person other than Ben Simmons that had the potential to be a star.
Thon Maker will be a SUPERSTAR
You're a fan. That's fine.
I have very real questions about Lonzo's form, as far as: pulling up going to his right.
But he can shoot off the left, and he's already a top-notch spot up shooter. An NBA offense will allow him to catch and shot way more than he did in college as the primary ball handler.
Don't come to me with "improved" for Fox's jumper. He doesn't want to shoot it AND he can't shoot it. That's a bad combo. I really like Fox, but you have to be realistic about his skillset right now, when evaluating him. He's also not going to be nearly as physically dominant in the L, where his lack of relative size will affect his defense. 6-6 wingspan and 170 pounds is not a big guard. So he's going to have to do it with speed, all the time. I'm not sure that translates as well as it did in college.
We'll see, I like him and I'm rooting for him.
I AM WARHOL
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Fox has a good looking jumper. It just doesn't go in. But mechanically, it doesn't look like there's much to fix. I think he'll be a better shooters than John wall sooner than later
Fox's shot mechanics look fine though. and he was consistently hitting the mid range jumper, was very streaky with threes. I heard the same shyt about Anthony Davis. "His jumper is broken! he has no offense" but I also said the same thing about him, his form looked good but he couldn't make any jumpers, and fox is actually already making them. I'd rather have someone with good mechanics than balls jacked up shyt.
Not statistically, he isn't.
He shot the ball decently in March, but was hardly prolific. For the rest of the season he was a moderate disaster, and hit like 20% of his spot-ups. His form is alright. The release is inconsistent, his elbow flares, and sometimes the load happens behind his ear.
Again, I don't think his jumpshot is beyond repair. And we have seen him shoot well in spurts (surrounded by much longer stretches of shooting very very poorly) - so the question becomes: Do you think he can learn to shoot.
And my response is: Most players can't. And don't. It is a dangerous gamble to ASSUME somebody will learn to shoot better.
I think I would invest in Fox because his speed is dynamic, and I think he's going to be an incredibly high effort player. But he is not going to physically dominate other guards in the L like he did in college, he's frail. He needs to get much stronger to be a consistent impact defender.
You can't come in here evangelizing his jumpshot, it is the weakest part of the package. There is zero proof he's going to be an above average shooter.
That being said, I hope he is.
Reid2Achieve
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The charts are from The Ringer. Yeah... no, Fox can't shoot at all right now. Have we not learned from Dunn, Mudiay, etc?
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Again. Cause they already have a point guard
All of this makes no sense. Celtics need a big. They don't need a backup pg, you can get those anywhere
But let's say they do need a pg. fultz is not the number 1 rated pg, they are only taking him to move him to SG
So why not trade the #1, get the big. Sixers take ball, lakers take either Jackson or fultz. Then the celtics have the 3rd to take Jackson or fultz anyway
They not only pay their pick less money, they get a free big. And they still get a backup point/shooting guard
I'm not saying you do this every year. But it's a unique situation where the best player in the draft happens to not meet the needs of the 1st overall team
See what the niners did this year. They didn't want the qb. But they tricked the bears into thinking they did, so the bears moved up, traded picks and the niners still got the guy they wanted anyway.