Reza Aslan rebuts Bill Maher about Islam

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I think Liberal criticism of Islam is muted because criticism and hatred of Islam is linked closely with xenophobia in the West. It feels uneasy to shyt on Muslims as a whole because that would mean you are giving implicit support to racist scumbags who hate anything that is not white Christian America.

But truth be told, southern states which are more religious, are on average not as socially progressive the more secular parts of the country. Scandinavian states are more progressive than the more religious United States etc. In short, religion fukks up almost everything.

shytting on Christians is easy because it's almost always not based on race. shytting on Muslims is a bit tricker cause there are just so many xenophobes doing that already and progressives don't want to be lumped in with that group.
This isn't true.


None of it.


at least not in America and the West its' not. Maybe in liberal media on liberal platforms (sometimes)....... but in what non-islamic nation is Criticism of Islam muted? America, Israel, UK, Spain, Russia? Which one?
 

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never mind the fact that the countries where that happens are more likely to be islamic than not :beli:
Well since you asked :stopitslime:



the practice doesn't come from Islam. There are tribes that do this, but not because of Islam. Sometimes they combine the belief and practice with some Islamic beliefs.... but that's only because they want to justify it further.

Women are the ones that preform it..not men. Women do it to protect their daughters (from men and themselves) and because they are superstitious and brainwashed. I know for a fact that not all of the people in Ethiopia and the Sudan do it because of Islam. most of the 200 million or whatever do it because of their tribes sexism.

There are many different way to do it. the Sudanese tribes basically taught the world the most gruesome and complete ways to do it... removing the whole thing, whereas most cultures dont do it all the way.

It predates Islam. I have a muslim cousin who had it done to her though.... I aint never ask her about it cuz i heard from someone else.... but somehow she's married.. I'd never wanna deal with a bytch who had this done cuz sex would be wack as fukk. every female i'm related to in the sudan as had it done.... those nikkas take it way back before islam was ever created.

Islam promote female purity and promotes people acting their best. This whole thing is not in the Quran. shyts not mentioned in the Quran at all. Random nikkas make up some shyt like "once i heard Muhammad or one of Muhammad people said...... blah blah" But basically remote, poor, ignorant Muslims practice it in Africa (barely in Asia) because they want women to remain pure and they are insecure with and about women.
 

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This isn't true.


None of it.


at least not in America and the West its' not. Maybe in liberal media on liberal platforms (sometimes)....... but in what non-islamic nation is Criticism of Islam muted? America, Israel, UK, Spain, Russia? Which one?

That's why I said Liberal Criticism of Islam.
 

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Reza Aslan is adept at evading legit criticism and I would gladly trollop that clown if given the chance.

A lot of people would.

he appeals to people wanting to send the image of being a moderate theologian under the guise of "harmony"

he's a clown and any attempt at even suggesting otherwise makes me consider someone like him dangerous.

Literally.

Furthermore, religious people never get any brownie points from me (NEVER) when they want to talk about greater geopolitical influence of harmful beliefs since they'll always refuse to adopt any responsibility for their fukked up beliefs.

fukk Reza Aslan and anyone that likes him.

Edit: looks like it's already been addressed
 

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fukk Reza Aslan

Dude is one of those "academic" christians who relies on theodicy (an actual word unfortunately) to try and weasel his way out of designing his special theology.

Stop being a p*ssy PC person and just admit religion is ENTIRELY bullshyt.

You're better than this.

Reza Aslan is Muslim... he became Christian very briefly in his teens but then became Muslim again. He is married to a Christian..
 

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Reza Aslan is Muslim... he became Christian very briefly in his teens but then became Muslim again. He is married to a Christian..
who cares? He's an idiot.

I meant to say he's a muslim and Ive corrected myself thorough the thread.

whats funny is that recent book he wrote and thats an even bigger problem.
 

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Well since you asked :stopitslime:



the practice doesn't come from Islam. There are tribes that do this, but not because of Islam. Sometimes they combine the belief and practice with some Islamic beliefs.... but that's only because they want to justify it further.

Women are the ones that preform it..not men. Women do it to protect their daughters (from men and themselves) and because they are superstitious and brainwashed. I know for a fact that not all of the people in Ethiopia and the Sudan do it because of Islam. most of the 200 million or whatever do it because of their tribes sexism.

There are many different way to do it. the Sudanese tribes basically taught the world the most gruesome and complete ways to do it... removing the whole thing, whereas most cultures dont do it all the way.

It predates Islam. I have a muslim cousin who had it done to her though.... I aint never ask her about it cuz i heard from someone else.... but somehow she's married.. I'd never wanna deal with a bytch who had this done cuz sex would be wack as fukk. every female i'm related to in the sudan as had it done.... those nikkas take it way back before islam was ever created.

Islam promote female purity and promotes people acting their best. This whole thing is not in the Quran. shyts not mentioned in the Quran at all. Random nikkas make up some shyt like "once i heard Muhammad or one of Muhammad people said...... blah blah" But basically remote, poor, ignorant Muslims practice it in Africa (barely in Asia) because they want women to remain pure and they are insecure with and about women.

This is the problem again.

You're taking one part of what Maher said about female genital mutilation and ignoring the lists of other shyt he said about islam thats still relevant in this discussion.
 

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This is the problem again.

You're taking one part of what Maher said about female genital mutilation and ignoring the lists of other shyt he said about islam thats still relevant in this discussion.
i was responding to a point about genital mutilation.

religion makes you unhinge.
 

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never mind the fact that the countries where that happens are more likely to be islamic than not :beli:

Its in Africa mainly... and there's countries with Christians and indigenous beliefs that do FGM


Once again, believing Ayan Hirsi Ali, a known liar, shows the depths of the hate of the Islamaphobes
 

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This is the problem again.

You're taking one part of what Maher said about female genital mutilation and ignoring the lists of other shyt he said about islam thats still relevant in this discussion.

Dude, we get it. You hate Islam, you hate Muslims.

Now go somewhere and relax.
 

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That's why I said Liberal Criticism of Islam.

Can you define "liberal media"? TYT, Slate, Rawstory, guardian etc (I'm not sure what other "liberal media platforms" you would be referring to) are just as critical of fundamentalist Islam as they are of fundamentalist Christianity. If you look at TYT's coverage of this Reza Azlan interview for example, Cenk addresses this specific concern and shows that they have been just as critical of Islam.
 

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Can you define "liberal media"? TYT, Slate, Rawstory, guardian etc (I'm not sure what other "liberal media platforms" you would be referring to) are just as critical of fundamentalist Islam as they are of fundamentalist Christianity. If you look at TYT's coverage of this Reza Azlan interview for example, Cenk addresses this specific concern and shows that they have been just as critical of Islam.

I'm not sure that is accurate. But if we are being honest, the the fukkery of fundamentalist Islam >>>>>>>>> fukkery of fundamentalist Christianity. For example, Family guy shyts on Christianity on an almost weekly basis, Christians respond by bytching and moaning and threatening boycotts. A newspaper prints a picture of Mohammed and Muslims riot all over the world. It's levels to fundamentalism.

The extremism of Christianity is not on the same level as the extremism of Islam and I'm an atheist. I don't have a horse in this race.
 

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Blaming Islam for Violence is like blaming Science for the Atomic bomb.

I stopped paying attention to Maher a little while ago...dude feels himself a little too much :camby:
 
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