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Reza Aslan rebuts Bill Maher about Islam
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Maher is a relic from the 90s, when identifying as a liberal meant you could make blatantly racist remarks and bash all forms of religion in the name of atheism without scorn from the general population and media. Maher is clearly bitter about how he went out when what that d'souza clown left him out to dry and got his show cancelled. Since he got on this Real Time shyt, he been forcing it with his simple ass takes on religion, race and conservatism. Watch any episode where a guest challenges his bullshyt narratives and look how fast Maher attempts to deflect with some corn humor
Even an atheist needs to acknowledge the importance of religion in understanding human history, and the world today. You may not believe in these faiths, but you can't deny that for the vast majority of human history to the present day most of humanity has/does believe, and their actions were/are informed by those beliefs. A theologian, therefor, has a valid expertise that needs to be acknowledged.
To just pass religion off as silly fairy tales, and those who believe as irrelevant because of those beliefs is to ignore one of the most consistent forces in human development.
To just pass religion off as silly fairy tales, and those who believe as irrelevant because of those beliefs is to ignore one of the most consistent forces in human development.
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True enough but no one is asking someone who studies Zeus or Odin to come partake in using Greek or Nordic Mythology as means to govern or establish laws. Those were at times followed as legitimate belief systems as well. There has to be a line drawn somewhere.
Agreed, but if there was a significant population of classical Greek polytheists living and influencing world events today, then it would be logical to consult the expert on classical Greek polytheism to better understand them.
Religions are failed sciences. They were attempts at figuring out things with some political structure mixed in.
Well their claims on the nature of reality are clearly false, so we're left with the political and moral substrates...and coming up with those is hard.
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To understand them yes, to give them carte blanche authority, no.
It seems like your'e taking this "hard-line" atheist position beyond logic. You don't have to believe in a religion to recognize that others do, and to understand that religion is to understand them better.
Offline, I don't give a fukk.
Since we're on a message board though, we're going to have seriously in-depth convos and I'm going to tell you how I REALLY feel.
So yes, I don't lend any credulity.
At all.
Its beneath me.
Nope.
The "Levant" is best understood as the fall of the ottoman empire and the struggle for control of its resources...with a repressive nature of islam mixed in as a means of leveraging socio-political order
Thats it.
Certainly those factors are significant, but to say "that's it" in attempting to understand humanity is, quite literally, a minimalist approach.
Were the European wars of religion devoid of religious motivations? No. Were the heavily influenced by social, economic, and political factors as well? Yes. Should one consider all those factors when trying to understand those events? I think so...
Reza Aslan is not the ultimate authority on these issues, nor is he to be completely disregarded simply because he is a theologian. If you disregard him for other reasons then cool, thats your choice. But to say that he's useless based solely on the fact that he's a theologian is flawed logic....in my opinion.
Fam.
I don't care.
Why do you want me to agree with you?
This is the sort of insulting shyt i'm talking about though.
We know how and why the ME is fukked up so when ISIS comes along and says they're PURELY a religious movement...WE CAN BELIEVE THEM.
We don't have to liberalize and intellectualize that their misfortune is a result of decades of divisive policy and a decline of their autonomy.
No.
ISIS is a religious movement. Lets keep it 1000.
Its not "a complex form of capitalism in the guise of a conservative way of handling politics in a post-ottoman influence world" blah blah blah
No.
Its sharia.
End of story.
In my view, if you claim to be a theologian, I immediately have a crisis of confidence in you.
Instantly.
Like, my stock in your ability to be a rational individual and someone bearing value and merit to a society instantly is diminished.
I'd like to hear your opinions on pokemon masters and their sociopolitical role in the history of western civilization
I'd like to hear your opinions on pokemon masters and their sociopolitical role in the history of western civilization
If I was researching Asian teenagers (or whoever the fukk likes pokemon, I'm too
to even know), I would consult a pokemon expert. And a theologian is simply a person who engages or is an expert in theology. You can be an atheist theologian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Atheist_theologians
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If I was researching Asian teenagers (or whoever the fukk likes pokemon, I'm too
And a theologian is simply a person who engages or is an expert in theology. You can be an atheist theologian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Atheist_theologians
Atheist theologians are called historians fam