Rich Celebrities that had their PPP loans forgiven.

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Jay-z is estimated to be a billionaire, he needed $2.1 million handout? :stopitslime:

are you fukking retarded?

again, ALL THE NUMBERS SHOW THESE PEOPLE DIDN'T USE THAT MONEY ON PAYROLL. A SMALL PERCENTAGE ACTUALLY REACHED REGULAR WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.

AGAIN, ARE YOU fukkING RETARDED?




let me quote that again since you clearly didn't read it.

You're a moron and the retarded one, you have the mental capacity of a child

a small business ranges from 1 to 500 Employees, Jay-Z has a small business, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have more than 500 employees he doesn't Run Ford Motor Company dumb ass


I swear yall some of the biggest retards ever

A working class person isn't going to have a small business with 50 employees what planet do you live on

A working class person would be getting the covid relief disaste EDIL loan, not PPP, and would get like 25k max, this is like a person with a lawn care surface they do as a self employed individual

prime example of dumb ass people who comment on shyt they know nothing about
 

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Remember the trillions congress shoveled out during the pandemic?

953 billion of that cash went out under the Paycheck Protection Program.

A lot of businesses were forced to shut down in 2020 so the government offered a simple deal: If we loan you the money, you won’t have to pay it back if you keep people on the payroll or bring them back to their jobs.

Senator Ron Wyden issued a warning for taxpayers: watch out for millionaire business owners who try to cheat the PPP.

He should know…he’s married to one of them.

Nancy Bass Wyden took out 2.7 million in PPP loans, then laid off hundreds of her employees anyway.

Last fall, https://freebeacon.com/democrats/ron-wydens-wife-raked-in-ppp-loans-while-laying-off-hundreds/ and in her words the store quote would “have to give back part of the loan.”

Turns out, she was wrong and her husband was right.

For some strange reason, the Biden Small Business administration decided to forgive the loans for the wife of the chairman of the powerful Senate Finance Committee.

Funny how it works that way.

No surprise, the SBA, and the multi-millionaire Senator and his equally rich wife have no comment on the happy development that made them just THAT much richer.
 

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·4 mo. ago

My employer got a mill. Also zero debt company. We provide an essential service so we never shut down. Due to Covid, we’ve actually been making record profits. Over the winter he bought a competitor, making us nearly a monopoly in our area. If anyone handing out the money gave half a fukk, they would easily know that we didn’t need the money to “stay afloat”.
Nobody’s gotten a yearly raise that exceeds inflation.

Forgiving PPP loans and not student loans is a form of class violence.​

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The U.S. federal government has forgiven almost $400 billion in PPP loans, which is just free money that it gave to businesses, an average of $95,000 each. Bipartisan support with virtually no media criticism. A friend of mine got over $100,000 because he employs about 10 people for barely over minimum wage in my state. He renovated his house with most of that money, which he sold for even more money. Biden has been concerned that forgiving student loans would be a handout — to the people actually working and creating the value that the feds tax to pay for everything. To force us to live in poverty conditions when the payments restart, but to forgive $400 billion for businesses in one year (for context, there’s about $1.7 trillion in student loans, which are scheduled to be paid over 10 years, so $170 billion a year) shows whom our leaders truly represent.
My employer got 250k forgiven. Business has no debt, we didn’t take a single day off due to Covid, no raises, no bonuses. Just a free quarter mill

Client had their $8.5M loan forgiven. Today they informed me that the sole owner is taking a $1.5M bonus and $3M Dividend. Why not just pay yourself the additional $4M while you're at it?

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We had a client get 45k of PPP loan money. Fired his workers. Sold his house and moved to Florida. Asked for forgiveness while paying zero in wages. It got forgiven.

This is a huge issue on a separate level. We had a client do this exact thing. Was not idealistically opposed to getting free PPP money for themselves, but was 100% opposed to having their employees get free money for nothing. So when they had to close down for COVID shutdown, he was sitting on huge PPP money without paying any of it out even though it would not have cost him a thing. And then when the covered period went to 24 weeks, that was enough time that he still got full forgiveness even though like a month went by without payroll at all.
 

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Nov. 18, 2021, 3:35 AM CST / Updated Nov. 18, 2021, 8:36 AM CST
By Gretchen Morgenson
In late June, Sharps Compliance, a Houston-based medical waste management company, reported spectacular financial results. The rollout of Covid-19 vaccines had increased demand for the company’s services, Sharps said, and its earnings had more than quadrupled. The company’s board granted Sharps’ top three executives twice the compensation they’d received a year earlier based on the performance; the trio shared almost $1 million more than they’d received in fiscal 2020, Securities and Exchange Commission filings show.
As publicly traded Sharps booked the enviable results, it also made a request of the federal government. Last year, the company had tapped taxpayers through a lender for a $2.2 million loan under the Paycheck Protection Program, or PPP, a relief operation for small businesses experiencing economic hardship due to coronavirus measures. A year later, Sharps wanted that loan forgiven.


On June 15, Sharps got its wish, regulatory filings show.
In the early, terrifying days of the pandemic, the federal government raced to support businesses and consumers undone by Covid shutdowns. A signature effort was the Paycheck Protection Program, a forgivable loan operation for small businesses. Overseen by the Small Business Administration, or SBA, it disbursed almost $800 billion in total from April 2020 to May 2021, when it ended.
Now, many PPP borrowers, like Sharps, are asking that their loans be forgiven. And as of Nov. 7, about $610 billion in forgiveness had been granted, data show.

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For small businesses, PPP was "the lifeline they needed to survive during a once-in-generation economic crisis," SBA Administrator Isabella Casillas Guzman said.
But an investigation by NBC News shows that the operations of some companies receiving loan forgiveness, like Sharps, seemed to thrive during Covid, rather than be hurt by it. And while those companies could not have predicted their standout results when they applied for PPP loans, their requests for loan forgiveness came well after the gains were evident.
Under the program, PPP loans can be forgiven if recipients maintain employee and compensation levels where they were before Covid and if at least 60 percent of the loan proceeds are spent on payroll costs and the rest on other eligible expenses, such as rent or utility payments.
There is no evidence that Sharps and the other companies identified by NBC News broke any laws or secured their loan forgiveness improperly.

A record year​

When the government launched the PPP, few rules were in place; the idea was to get money to businesses fast. The government made it clear at the time that borrowers would be entitled to forgiveness if they met certain requirements.
Initially, borrowers did have to certify "in good faith" that the funding was necessary when they applied for loans, taking into account "their current business activity" and their ability to access other sources of capital to support their operations, such as the stock market or deep-pocketed investors.
"It is unlikely that a public company with substantial market value and access to capital markets will be able to make the required certification in good faith," the SBA said.
Nevertheless, some companies whose loans over $1 million have been forgiven had access to stock market funding both when they took the taxpayer money and when they received forgiveness, NBC News found. In the early days of the pandemic, the stock market was cratering, but since then, it has repeatedly hit new highs.
Some 157 companies with access to the stock market got about $300 million worth of the $610 billion that had been forgiven as of mid-October, or less than 0.1 percent of the total. For example, Sharps’ stock market value was about $100 million when it got the PPP loan, and shortly after it was forgiven, the company raised $17 million by issuing new shares, regulatory records show.

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In addition, NBC News determined, more than $120 million in loan forgiveness has gone to companies recording higher revenues and earnings during Covid than before it.

Sharps could not have been clearer about the pandemic’s impact. In its annual report to shareholders, published two months after its loan was forgiven, it said, "To date, the company has not identified any material adverse impact of COVID-19 on its financial position and results of operations."

Nell Minow is a corporate governance expert and vice chairman of ValueEdge Advisors, an advisory firm to institutional investors. She is critical of companies that took taxpayer money when, she said, they did not need it and of company directors who awarded higher CEO pay while receiving federal loan forgiveness.


"Once again, corporate directors and CEOs are the real welfare queens, exploiting loopholes of sloppily drafted emergency legislation," Minow said. "This is an outrage."
NBC News asked Sharps to respond to the criticism and to address why it had requested forgiveness of the loan from taxpayers during such a prosperous year. A Sharps spokesman declined to address the issues but said the company had met the SBA’s criteria for loan forgiveness.
"Sharps is a relatively small company and the dedicated employees mobilized in a time of great uncertainty and risk, to play a vital role in the safe collection and disposal of COVID-19 related medical waste," the spokesman said. "This loan played an important role in enabling Sharps to confidently execute against this plan, protect employees and help customers as they contended with the pandemic."
In a regulatory filing, Sharps said it must keep records of its $2.2 million loan for six years in case the SBA decides to audit the company’s eligibility for the loan. "To the extent the eligibility is challenged, the company may have to repay all or part of the PPP Loan," the filing said.
Acme United, a maker of sharpening tools and first-aid kits, is another example. The company, based in Shelton, Connecticut, tapped the taxpayers for a $3.5 million PPP loan in May 2020 and received forgiveness for it in June of this year.
For the nine months that ended Sept. 30, Acme earned 87 percent more than it did in the same period last year, its filings show. And for 2020, the company recorded that revenues were up by 15 percent, while earnings advanced by 47 percent.
Its three top executives shared an additional $1.1 million in total compensation last year, a 43 percent increase over 2019.
In awarding the pay, Acme United’s board cited the company’s milestones and achievements, including a big increase in e-commerce sales and a $9.3 million acquisition of a Florida-based manufacturer of antiseptic prep pads and towelettes. The company "has been able to continue to meet the needs of its customers in 2020 without interruption," it said.

Walter Johnsen, the chairman and CEO of Acme United, said in a phone call that the company was fortunate in being able to pivot to internet sales during the pandemic. The company "worked very carefully with the SBA, responding truthfully to numerous requests," he said. "We met all their requirements and answered as fully and honestly as we could, and they concluded that the loan would be forgiven."
A third public company that received loan forgiveness amid a stellar performance is Enzo Biochem, a New York City-based clinical lab and diagnostics company. It received a $7 million PPP loan last year, which was forgiven in June, regulatory records show. The SBA granted the forgiveness as Enzo was experiencing a record year, generating a 55 percent increase in sales.
Fueling Enzo’s fiscal 2021 results, the company said, were its Covid testing products, for which it received emergency use authorizations and extensions from the Food and Drug Administration. Enzo recorded earnings of almost $8 million for the year, up from a loss of $28.5 million in fiscal 2020.
It was "a validating and extraordinary year for Enzo," said Barry Weiner, the company’s president. Enzo will disclose its executive pay figures for 2021 this month.
Along with other companies in the health care arena, Enzo got an array of government assistance during the pandemic. Asked about receiving loan forgiveness from taxpayers during its banner year, an Enzo spokeswoman said, "Our PPP loan performed exactly the service it was meant to provide — a lifeline to avoid having to let people go and potential shut down divisions of our company — and we met all criteria to be eligible for loan forgiveness."
Like Sharps and Acme United, Enzo had access to stock market funding for its operations during the pandemic; its market value at the time it got the loan was $108 million. It is now $170 million.
Gretchen Morgenson
Gretchen Morgenson is the senior financial reporter for the NBC News Investigative Unit. A former stockbroker, she won the Pulitzer Prize in 2002 for her "trenchant and incisive" reporting on Wall Street.
Andrew W. Lehren and Alexandra Chaidez contributed.
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This is not rich people taking loans. This is legit businesses taking loans to pay their workers during COVID. Y’all act like the people themselves pocketed the money. The money went to their employees to cover payroll during lockdowns.

I'm sure they were also on payroll and paid themselves a salary with the funds
 

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please tell me again why people get all uptight about student loan forgiveness, but quiet as church mice when RICH people get their LOANS FORGIVEN? :gucci:
Fam, just say you don’t understand business/finance talk and keep it moving. You lost this one,
If anyone is to be blamed then blame the govt for allowing this to happen and not the business men.
Business owners do NOT spend their own money for nothing. That’s bad business, they apply for all types of grants and loans to pay for supplies and payroll. Me having a personal wealth of millions do not mean I’m using that to fund my business. Why wouldn’t I take free money?
 

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Fam, just say you don’t understand business/finance talk and keep it moving. You lost this one,
If anyone is to be blamed then blame the govt for allowing this to happen and not the business men.
Business owners do NOT spend their own money for nothing. That’s bad business, they apply for all types of grants and loans to pay for supplies and payroll. Me having a personal wealth of millions do not mean I’m using that to fund my business. Why wouldn’t I take free money?
In contracting in upstate ny we hit record profits profits during Covid because all the city people fled upstate. All I know is my boss got that ppp loan and my boss got a big azz addition to his house and bought a smaller shop and expanded our territory essentially, and we ain’t see no raises or bonuses. You can say the loans were to keep us afloat, but we was hitting record numbers without the loan. You can believe it all went to peoples businesses but it just ain’t true lmao
 

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I must be missing something cause I thought everyone’s loan could be forgiven
you can't grasp the fact that rich people took your tax dollars and you're making excuses about. this is funny to see. Are you telling me a man that just signed a $50million contract in 2020 can't afford to payback $960k?

LMAO.
Why would you pay 960k out of your own pocket if you don’t have to? You don’t get mad at other people who know how to finesse. You learn how to finesse yourself and teach the people you love so they can use it in life too. And I use the term finesse loosely cause it really ain’t finessing. The loans were made to be forgiven for EVERYONE but the ones who were scamming couldn’t get it forgiven because they didn’t have businesses in all actuality. We gotta do better breh
 
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