Russell Wilsons Turns Down 21 Ms Per Year

[FSP]

In the 8 years Matt Hasselbeck was on the Seahawks he got them into the playoffs 6 of those years and got into a Superbowl. If Hasselbeck has a defense half as good as the Seahawks have now, he wins a superbowl. I mean his receiving corps was made by the ghost of Joe Jurevicious and the corpse of of Bobby Ingram.

I can't fukkin believe I'm defending Hasselbeck.

a superbowl is fine. Since they got there 1 year. The nfc west was soft as fukk back in the day too

A few superbowls is going overboard. You're arguing Hasselbeck would have been better than RW? Nah son

 

[360dagod]

Pay the man so he canthe next time the o-coordinator calls a dumb play

 

[Millions]

Russ should get paid y'all buggin and his receivers ain't that bad they not elite but they got good hands..

Why let a young brees walk ?

Russ can ball and he's exceeded expectations that lil nikka just don't make mistakes..

 

[FSP]

look, even if Russ is as good as the elites (which I haven't seen much to say he is), he's not playing in a system that requires elite play from him really. That team doesn't flow through him and he's not out there leading them to victories. He provides great plays and his mobility is elite, but he's not really essential to that squad. If this dude was on Jacksonville or Cleveland, sure, I say break the bank for him. But on a squad with such a diverse and deep roster, it makes no sense to make him the highest paid QB in the league. It's not about how talented Russ is, it's about how talented the rest of that team is. You can't replace Beast Mode, you can't replace the LOB, you can replace 3,400 yards, 20 tds and 7 ints. His running talent is elite, but i'd spend the money on a slightly less talented game manager and 2 good wrs than Russ. Diversify the offense and plug in a safe QB, they'll still be back to the SB.

look, even if Russ is as good as the elites (which I haven't seen much to say he is), he's not playing in a system that requires elite play from him really. That team doesn't flow through him and he's not out there leading them to victories. He provides great plays and his mobility is elite, but he's not really essential to that squad. If this dude was on Jacksonville or Cleveland, sure, I say break the bank for him. But on a squad with such a diverse and deep roster, it makes no sense to make him the highest paid QB in the league. It's not about how talented Russ is, it's about how talented the rest of that team is. You can't replace Beast Mode, you can't replace the LOB, you can replace 3,400 yards, 20 tds and 7 ints. His running talent is elite, but i'd spend the money on a slightly less talented game manager and 2 good wrs than Russ. Diversify the offense and plug in a safe QB, they'll still be back to the SB.

youre arguing stats. You're not going to replace a quarterback with his combination of instincts and athleticism and arm talent. That's not even opinion, that is objective fact. If you let him walk they will spend years at least looking for a suitable replacement. Meanwhile RW will go to a different team, perform like he always has and eat. Not a good move.

They're going to pay him Idk why were discussing this. Letting him walk is a bad business move period.

 

[tmonster]

Russ has exceeded in every envirnoment he's played at..so far. There's no truth to the conjecture that "oh it's just the system"

He was the truth at NC State, he was the truth at Wisconsin, he came to the NFL people thought he was too short to succeed, then after he wins a superbowl and comes within a yard of winning 2 straight, in 3 seasons....
he's a 2x pro bowler, with a 98 career Passer rating, with 1800 rushing yards, a superbowl, 2x nfc champion, a 3:1 TD/Int ratio

And ya'll still don't wanna give the man no credit

Pay this dude

it is what it is

 

[King Kreole]

That team was built different, #1 offense

But the formation of that offenses was more or less the same: built on the backs of the RBs. Hasselbeck had 3,400 yards, 24 tds, 9 ints that year, basically the same as Russ. Could be argued that Hasselbeck was actually more important to that team because he was putting up those numbers in a less pass friendly era and without the LOB.

youre arguing stats. You're not going to replace a quarterback with his combination of instincts and athleticism and arm talent. That's not even opinion, that is objective fact. If you let him walk they will spend years at least looking for a suitable replacement. Meanwhile RW will go to a different team, perform like he always has and eat. Not a good move.

They're going to pay him Idk why were discussing this. Letting him walk is a bad business move period.

Even acknowledging all of Russ' intangibles, the point remains that the QB is simply not as valuable a position in that scheme. They aren't living and dying by Russ' arm. Even if they get a worse QB than him, they can still do well on the back of Marshawn and the LOB. Look at KC from 2 years ago. If the seahawks can afford Russ, then pay him, but he's not a break the bank type of dude for that team. They can get a couple good wrs and a game manager QB for cheaper and have their offense diversified and be in better shape.

Look at all the teams that are paying their QBs elite money. They are all living on the arm of their QB. Not so with Seattle.

 

[JLova]

Those of you that think Russ isn't that good need to consider something,

His starting receivers signed deals that pay them between 2-4mil per year after their rookie contracts....

A good receiver is paid anywhere between 6-15 mil per year in this league.

Russel's receivers would be lucky if they could get a job anywhere else in the league to be honest.

When you watch guys like Kearse and Baldwin run their routes, it reeks of "college player"...

That's why this man has to scramble and run so much, his receivers barely get open.

This nikka threw 4 picks and got to the SB. It works both ways. He plays within a great system and has the best RB in the league which creates many opportunities for him. A QB is nothing without a ground game. He has the best in the league. Kearse and Baldwin aren't great but they do make plays when they need to. And if you thought his receivers were shyt now...just wait and see what crap they'll find with Russ's contract taking up all that cap space.

He's not going to cover up all those flaws. Can he be the top dog on that team averaging 2-3 times as many attempts as he does now? I don't think so.

 

[Danie84]

But he won't turn down washed up single moms. Smh

VULGAR

...if only RusSoulglo don't throw that Super Bowl Pick L, tho

 

[360dagod]

VULGAR

...if only RusSoulglo don't throw that Super Bowl Pick L

If that nikka gonna make 20million plus, he better start audibling shyt himself....

 

[feelosofer]

a superbowl is fine. Since they got there 1 year. The nfc west was soft as fukk back in the day too

A few superbowls is going overboard. You're arguing Hasselbeck would have been better than RW? Nah son

I said 1 superbowl and I never said Hasselbeck is better than Russel Wilson, but to make it seem like he was trash is just not so, for as soft as the Division was he was for all of those years the best QB and he still cut up some tough defenses in those years.

That being said Seattle is the one team that is known for playing hardball not saying Russ won't get paid, but it will be on their terms.

 

[FSP]

But the formation of that offenses was more or less the same: built on the backs of the RBs. Hasselbeck had 3,400 yards, 24 tds, 9 ints that year, basically the same as Russ. Could be argued that Hasselbeck was actually more important to that team because he was putting up those numbers in a less pass friendly era and without the LOB.


Even acknowledging all of Russ' intangibles, the point remains that the QB is simply not as valuable a position in that scheme. They aren't living and dying by Russ' arm. Even if they get a worse QB than him, they can still do well on the back of Marshawn and the LOB. Look at KC from 2 years ago. If the seahawks can afford Russ, then pay him, but he's not a break the bank type of dude for that team. They can get a couple good wrs and a game manager QB for cheaper and have their offense diversified and be in better shape.

Look at all the teams that are paying their QBs elite money. They are all living on the arm of their QB. Not so with Seattle.

Heres the thing about thst. The team only has 1 or 2 good years left together anyway. If they let RW walk they might end up with nobody. Marshawn is almost 30, Sherman gonna want big $, ET is gonna want big $ Chancellor is gonna want big $. The team is about to make big changes. They can't keep everybody Not being sure who your qb is, on top of all of that, would be the worst move. You have to pay him now because there won't be a 2nd chance. A few key players are going to be leaving. You don't know which ones but you have the chance and the cap space to lock one of them down right now you do it

They're gonna pay him brehs. He's got the leverage

 

[South Paw]

But the formation of that offenses was more or less the same: built on the backs of the RBs. Hasselbeck had 3,400 yards, 24 tds, 9 ints that year, basically the same as Russ. Could be argued that Hasselbeck was actually more important to that team because he was putting up those numbers in a less pass friendly era and without the LOB.

The steelers team of 05 was much closer to this team than the 05 hawks. And they also had the best oline is football. They also had one of the best qb coaches and offensive minds in holmgren.

And has was never expected to make the throws that Russ has to. It was a very strict west coast offense with mostly short throws. Carroll has a much more vertical scheme. Has wouldn't have the arm for that.

 

[3rd Koast Kang]

Russ should get paid y'all buggin and his receivers ain't that bad they not elite but they got good hands..

Why let a young brees walk ?

Russ can ball and he's exceeded expectations that lil nikka just don't make mistakes..

He should get paid but if I was the Seahawks I wouldn't be tryna pay him 21 mil a year either.

 

[King Kreole]

Heres the thing about thst. The team only has 1 or 2 good years left together anyway. If they let RW walk they might end up with nobody. Marshawn is almost 30, Sherman gonna want big $, ET is gonna want big $ Chancellor is gonna want big $. The team is about to make big changes. They can't keep everybody Not being sure who your qb is, on top of all of that, would be the worst move. You have to pay him now because there won't be a 2nd chance. A few key players are going to be leaving. You don't know which ones but you have the chance and the cap space to lock one of them down right now you do it

They're gonna pay him brehs. He's got the leverage

Yeah, that's the one thing that gives me pause. They got the LOB locked up, but Marshawn is most likely gone in a year or 2, so if they think Russ is capable of replacing Marshawn's production, then sure, give him the contract. They don't have a great OL or WRs, so Russ would really be the only quality player on that O. I just don't know if Russ is capable of being a Drew Brees, Tom Brady type QB. Nothing he's done so far has shown me he's capable of throwing 35+ times a game and leading that team to victories. What I do know is that if they give Russ this mega contract, they're gonna be relying on rookie wrs and linemen, but with no Beastmode. Seattle knows all this though, which is why they're hitting Russ with the

 

[FSP]

^I was just about to correct myself. They already extended the cbs. This year is when the extensions start kicking in