Ryan Coogler talks about how he felt guilty trying to connect to Africa instead of his FBA Ancestors - “I only saw my first Cotton Field in 2021”

[RamsayBolton]

I can't imagine feeling guilty about that. Our ancestors are our ancestor. All that came before us are worthy of our pride.

Then again, I was exposed to this shyt as a child. I've never felt disconnected from my recent or distant roots.

yeah i dont know why brehs ITT are making it one or the other or placing one above the other. Literally don't have to.

Can walk and talk at the same time

 

[DA_LURKA]

I'm not

This is Tariq Nasheed porn at this point. I know the non-fbas are sick of this shyt.

People have a right to celebrate their own history...

 

[Barlow]

You don't see white people talking about "Fukk our European ancestors, we're Americans".

You don't see asian people talking about "Fukk our Asian ancestors, we're Americans".

Yet your dumb ass argues this.

My history doesn't start with slavery. We're more than 500 years fakkit.

White Americans literally say fukk Europe all the time

I have never once heard an average Midwest white American call themselves a “European American”

The only white people who care about Europe are like Irish and Italians who came over in like the early 1900s

 

[O.Red]

Glad he's reconnecting. I travel a bit but I also laugh when people talk about "finding themselves" halfway across the world when they have never looked in the next town over. I also don't think this is something ADOS exclusively face (though it impacts us more) I've seen other Americans sorta dismiss their own culture

This

Nikkas can tell you every pharaoh but don't know their grandparents stories

 

[HimmyHendrix]

the distant africa shyt is a fun lil add on. but it shouldn’t and can’t be the foundation of who we are

 

[HimmyHendrix]

I don't care what you think. You're a dumbass. You have 5,000 years of history to be proud of and you think your history starts with slavery.

Do better. Dummy.

YOU DONT HAVE 5000 years of proud history. You’re asssuming you do.

Trying to attach yourself to random countries and people makes you look desperate. You have DNA from many tribes and many regions of Africa.

That shyt forced and fake. Black American history and lineage is confirmed and traceable .

 

[HimmyHendrix]

I almost want to neg. We are African. They are our ancestors. We did not originate in the Americas. We are Africans stolen from Africa and overtime we built a culture here. It is perfectly fine to connect to that past. We would not exist without them. We do not need to tear down our African forefathers to connect with our more recent ancestors.

who are your african forefathers what are their names?

 

[BuckFilly]

or the

The n you funky bish

 

[HimmyHendrix]

it started with white AMERICAN supremacy. In an attempt to divorce us from our stake in the creation of this country and subsequently the modern WEST. Then the pannies and mama africa-negros took that and ran with it

Dishing everything off to africa is not doing what these nikkas think its doing

i always tell nikkas pan africanism is branch of white supremacy. it sounds ridiculous but it’s true and it’s why politicians openly campaign and support it

 

[Fillerguy]

White Americans literally say fukk Europe all the time

I have never once heard an average Midwest white American call themselves a “European American”

The only white people who care about Europe are like Irish and Italians who came over in like the early 1900s

This is an outright lie. European stanning is the foundation of white supremacy. Them fukkers will walk around where viking tattoos or preach about how white Europeans are the most culturally important people in Human history.

I don't know why yall start soft shoeing these cacs when yall start diaspora wars threads. The mf above day Pan-Africanism is a branch of ws

 

[Legal]

I can't imagine feeling guilty about that. Our ancestors are our ancestor. All that came before us are worthy of our pride.

Then again, I was exposed to this shyt as a child. I've never felt disconnected from my recent or distant roots.

I get it. You gotta remember that for most kids growing up here in America, the concept of stateside black history is a subject shyt gets tip-toed around. It's easy to disconnect from our more localized history if you consider that our history stateside is poorly taught due to it being an uncomfortable subject, and if you don't live down south, you don't really have as many available landmarks and visible reminders to draw you back to it.

It's just a shame that Coogler deciding to get in touch with the totality of his history to try to honor as much of it as he can is being used for this petty culture war people insist on engaging in.

 

[im_sleep]

That’s not the type of time he’s on. He was describing how he partially arrived at conceptualizing Sinners - and it involved a crazy 24 hours in which he witnessed a cotton field for the first time. Coogler is a proud black american man, but he has pan-african sensibilities. In this very same interview he lists pan-african authors as some of his research points for the movie. In the movie he makes a direct connection to Africa (this is without mentioning how affectionately he speaks of Africa often)

In this interview he - again - makes the direct connection from Africa to Blues in the deep American South:



People are using out of context excerpts and quotes to project onto him

Funny how the acronym crew walked right past this post.


Anyway, nothing wrong with him reaching that conclusion. I did the same around 15-20 years ago. I actually no lie made a promise to myself and my ancestors that I’d be well-versed in understanding our history, beliefs, culture, etc. because I saw firsthand what happened when we overlooked ourselves.

Years ago most of these kind of conversations were limited to what we now know as the ‘conscious community’. Whether folks want to admit it or not, there was A LOT of self-loathing among African Americans in these circles around not feeling ‘“African enough” within our own culture and in-turn immersing in other cultures of the continent and diaspora as a way to counter that sentiment, which IMO was the wrong approach and a misinterpretation of Pan-Africanism altogether (I could go a whole lot deeper into this but I’d really gotta sit and write about it.).

Long story short, immersing myself in the history of our culture here made me a better Pan-African. The deeper you go in them cotton fields, rice fields, tobacco fields, etc. The more you engage The Blues, the juke joints, etc. you literally can’t deny the African within us.

It looks Ryan is reaching the same understanding…from a true Pan-African perspective.

 

[HimmyHendrix]

This is an outright lie. European stanning is the foundation of white supremacy. Them fukkers will walk around where viking tattoos or preach about how white Europeans are the most culturally important people in Human history.

I don't know why yall start soft shoeing these cacs when yall start diaspora wars threads. The mf above day Pan-Africanism is a branch of ws

This is wrong. There is no pan european shyt going on. evident by the world wars combined with irish colonization combined with the treatment of the irish and the i-ties in America.

Even on twitter every time whites in america try to push that shyt they get shut down.

The mf above day Pan-Africanism is a branch of ws

It is, the desire to send us on this endless path of “finding out who you are “ and “reconnecting” with your ancestors weakens our claim to america and to reparations.

also splinters us as an ethnic group and causes division. You and I could descend from different places but under the ethnicity it doesn’t matter. And it does the further you go back.

It also gave us this weird ass martyr complex we have now. muling for everyone. nikkas signing up to fight wars for random people in ethiopia but not building enough Here.

these are all things they want from us. if had focused on ethnicity and lineage the last hundred years we’d be far more along the path

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

i always tell nikkas pan africanism is branch of white supremacy. it sounds ridiculous but it’s true and it’s why politicians openly campaign and support it

Dumbest post in the thread

 

[HimmyHendrix]

Dumbest post in the thread