Sam Harris on CNN: "Islam is mother lode of bad ideas"

[plushcarpet]

What does this have to do with White Supremacy. The Islamic Institutions of science and education that I mentioned included different race and ethnic groups (Arabs, Persians, Kurd's, Blacks, etc..) also many scientist that worked in Muslim leaders courts where Jews and Christians.

Al Jahiz-Black Muslim from Basra, Worked in the capital for Abbāsid caliph one of the most important writers in Islamic history. In addition, he was an accomplished theologian, poet, philosopher, grammarian and linguist. Known as “the first Islamic zoologist,” he authored about 200 books on various subjects.

you are using outliers to make a toxic ideology look better

you're defending islam the same way someone can defend white supremacy

if you tell me that white supremacy is toxic, i can just reply with "no it isn't look at all this science and advancement white people have done while in power"

your logic is flawed

 

[BaggerofTea]

Bruh, at no point in time did I ever address the fukking hijab.

You keep saying this as if I don't know this.

I KNOW THIS. Goddamn, what is wrong with you? And what does this have to do with the point of the thread?

I know fukking most of the islamic world was "liberalized" post WW2....but they were communist/socialists and got waxed out. Now we have the fukkheads we do now.

So whats that got to do with ISLAM itself and the Quran, which are themselves purported to be infallible and immutable???

Stop proclaiming someone you disagree with doesn't know shyt. Its fukking retarded because I can do just the same thing and never pin down what we're actually discussing. You don't have to agree with me.

I know more about Islam that YOU do, cultural and political, and STILL view it as a barbaric, vicious, disgusting way of life that I hope to be marginalized and removed from any influence in the Western world.

This dumb nikka doesn't even know what an example is.

Im explaining to you that most of the Islamic world was liberal in its perspective of the Koran, its only until the West began to overthrow democratically elected secular governments that weren't beholden to western interests and propped up brutal dictatorships in its place was when people began to flock to radical Islam.

The whole purpose of radical Islam is the false perception that it will give the Muslim world strength to fight back against perceived Western aggressors and invaders.

Use your fukking brain, Bin Laden despised Western Troops in Saudi Arabia. They are telling you what they are upset about. But instead of using your god given brain to figure it out, you dance this bullshyt narrative.

 

[tstone]

you are using outliers to make a toxic ideology look better

you're defending islam the same way someone can defend white supremacy

if you tell me that white supremacy is toxic, i can just reply with "no it isn't look at all this science and advancement white people have done while in power"

your logic is flawed

Outliers? I could put up different examples all day and that's what I have been doing an you have not refuted one of them. You just bring up white supremacy, which show's a lack of knowledge of the subject.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This dumb nikka doesn't even know what an example is.

Im explaining to you that most of the Islamic world was liberal in its perspective of the Koran, its only until the West began to overthrow democratically elected secular governments that weren't beholden to western interests and propped up brutal dictatorships in its place was when people began to flock to radical Islam.

The whole purpose of radical Islam is the false perception that it will give the Muslim world strength to fight back against perceived Western aggressors and invaders.

Use your fukking brain, Bin Laden despised Western Troops in Saudi Arabia. They are telling you what they are upset about. But instead of using your god given brain to figure it out, you dance this bullshyt narrative.

Thats like saying christianity was liberal in its view of the bible.

nah, its just fukking moderates bullshytting with their faith again.

I don't give a fukk about all this other shyt you're talking about. That element was ALWAYS there.

ALWAYS.

Go read about Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary Pirates before you fukking waste my time with this shyt.

Its always goalpost moving with yall on islam. These aren't kids. They can defend themselves. They dont need your do-gooder asses defending them.

 

[BaggerofTea]

Thats like saying christianity was liberal in its view of the bible.

nah, its just fukking moderates bullshytting with their faith again.

I don't give a fukk about all this other shyt you're talking about. That element was ALWAYS there.

ALWAYS.

Go read about Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary Pirates before you fukking waste my time with this shyt.

Its always goalpost moving with yall on islam. These aren't kids. They can defend themselves. They dont need your do-gooder asses defending them.

No one is even disputing the actually text. The conflict is based off of how and what spurred a more literalist interpretation of the Koran Here you go again with this bullshyt

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

No one is even disputing the actually text. The conflict is based off of how and what spurred a more literalist interpretation of the Koran Here you go again with this bullshyt

My nikka, who gives a fukk about what prompted it? You just want to moralize bullshyt.


Are we gonna talk about what IS motivating it or not?

Cause at the end of the day, islam is at the crux of this shyt. This isn't even Iran we're talking about. Its fukking ISLAM.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Well if it wasn't for the Norman Invasion

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Now I know that your stupid. The University that I mentioned started out as a Madrasa and still provides Islamic education. Most of the great Muslim Scientist and Scholars had there work funded by Muslim Caliphs and worked in there courts. Islamic Institutions promoted education and the sciences. It was not random people throughout the world.

Go ahead and name some recent discoveries made by islamic scientists in recent times... Ill wait..

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Go ahead and name some recent discoveries made by islamic scientists in recent times... Ill wait..

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It's nice that Chomsky still let's lil Sam do interviews

Chomsky, at this point, appeals to those who don't understand realpolitik. They'd never be in positions that had any real responsibility since any decision would be too much for them to rationalize.

 

[BaggerofTea]

My nikka, who gives a fukk about what prompted it? You just want to moralize bullshyt.


Are we gonna talk about what IS motivating it or not?

Cause at the end of the day, islam is at the crux of this shyt. This isn't even Iran we're talking about. Its fukking ISLAM.

https://fas.org/irp/agency/dod/dsb/commun.pdf

Read page 39, 40 and 41 and shut the fukk up

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

https://fas.org/irp/agency/dod/dsb/commun.pdf

Read page 39, 40 and 41 and shut the fukk up

Read this entire book, and shut the fukk up.

See I can try to shut down discussion with diversionary tactics too

 

[BaggerofTea]

Read this entire book, and shut the fukk up.

See I can try to shut down discussion with diversionary tactics too

Those three pages would dissemble any bullshyt you spewed, so I cant blame you for ignoring them

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Hes really talking about shyt that happened a thousand years ago

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Those three pages would dissemble any bullshyt you spewed, so I cant blame you for ignoring them

The fact that the House of Saud had to even repress their own INNATE radicalism disputes any grandiose foreign policy motivations you want to trot out.

Theres never any accountability for muslims. Its always fukkboy do-gooders like yourself who make a mockery out of what liberalism is supposed to be and what progressivism is supposed to be by stepping in front of any bullet meant to criticize, investigate, and admonish relating to or about islam.

You're a clown and they're all laughing at you behind their back.

The average muslim believes in things that are fundamentally incompatible with the West and you'll continue to deny it so much as it allows you to pretend to be an inclusive and knowledgeable person.

You're a stooge and a useful idiot to the causes of radical islam.