Saw Hidden Colors 1 & 2 and have some MAJOR beefs with some of the concepts. WATCH THE MOVIE FIRST!

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Sorry but...you'd have been better off not responding to me.

I'm not excusing AIDS DENIALISM as par for the course.

Come on now.

I've given the films props, but you can't be serious with that mess.

Honestly, it almost seems like you just want everyone to share the same outrage that you have with those inaccuracies. shyt must have really hit a nerve or something.
Well, you can keep responding to nikkas in this thread or you can be the difference in the next HC film. The choice is yours. :manny:
 

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Im actually surprised how many black people havent heard all this "black bookstore knowledge".

I spent a lot of time around these folks growing up. A lot of them mean well, but there are also a lot of folks involved in that circuit that are just full of shyt.
Its just bad knowledge passed down from the previous "pro black" generation.
Im not mad though, they are coming from a place where they were told they were inferior (Im talking about the cats that are 50+) everyday by society, so their reaction is to go a little too far in the other direction.

But like anything else, lazy people will believe whatever fits their world view. You tell an angry white person their race has a better history, and they will believe it...same for black people.
 

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I have HC2 on my harddrive. The dudes were IN CORRECTLY referencing how Melanin works.

Melanin is located within the skin and STIMULATED by MSH...but melanin is not secreted from the PG.

I'm a stickler for detail. Get mad if you want to.
Guess they were right, in a sense, as you are also. It may not be secreted but, it's in there. Instead of arguing, you should do research because the info is out there. Science is always learning new things, so depending on a book that may be dated is dangerous.

BTW, melanin is found all throughout the body not just the skin. Why it's there is the mystery that scientist are trying to figure out. I have a theory that it's there to help absorb some radiant heat that is made from the acitivity of metabolism, and helps keep everything in the body, in a proper homeostasis 24/7. I think some scientist have this same theory but, won't outright say it, because it can mean a lot of things that aren't good for those who suffer from lack of high melanin. To put it in simple words, the lighter you are, the worse off you can be health wise due to lack of consistency of metabolism in your body. This can manifest itself with mental disease or physical disease or both. This doesn't mean the lighter you are, you are automatically going to get sick but, it does mean you have to work much harder to stay healthy then a darker person would. The darker person would just need to move around, get as much sunlight as possible all over their body, and eat nutrient dense foods. The lighter person would have to do constant exercise, always eat proper foods, and have as less mental stress as they can have in their daily routine.

This is why I feel racism is not healthy from an evolutionary standpoint. If we know being darker is better health wise(please don't hit me with the vitamin d nonsense), why is being lighter more praised when it's a sign of weakness. Real light skin(to the point of almost being white), Blond hair, and blue eyes, is a sign that whoever has those traits can't deal with the elements well, yet we praise them when it should be the other way around. We praise straight hair, when it needs constant washing due to being high in oil, and water, or it will get dirty fast, and attract all type of things to it, while kinky hair won't, and doesn't need that much tending to. Don't get me wrong, I love all good people regardless of race but, these are facts that can't be denied. Racism, and white supremacy, is why we are thinking backwards. If people wanted the best for their child to be able to survive the earth's elements, they would be going crazy to look black but, that is far from the case. This means there is a bigger picture in the background of our world that is hiding a more sinister plan, that only the few who question may start to understand.

This can be why theories on whites from northern europe(1,000's of years ago not now) who were neanderthals or had a high amount of the genes in their dna, were more hostile then other groups who had less contact with them(including whites from france,spain, and other regions just north of Africa), as well as more prejudiced, and more of a patriarch society. My theory is the lack of strong sunlight caused them to slowly lose most of their melanin which in turn caused them to not retain heat well, which means an uneven metabolism, which meant constant stress. This internal stress caused them to see the world in a different way then other who bodies were designed in environments where they had abundance to light, and food. Michael bradley talks about this in depth since the 70's, and he was laughed at, now we see he may be right through science. BTW, he's white.

I wonder why didn't the people who lived in such harsh conditions just leave the area after a few years, and go down into other regions. They waited 1,000's of years before doing this but, by then they turned into some sinister people who had gotten real good at fighting, and trickery, so they conquered lands with no problem. I guess as humans when we are born into a situation we tend to think that is all there is until something forces us out of our situation.

http://medind.nic.in/jae/t01/i2/jaet01i2p122.pdf
Melanin Pigments in Human Pineal Gland

http://www.michaelbradley.info/books/iceman/iceman_promo.html
The Iceman Inheritance
 
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This is why i'm so offended with the HIV denialism in the black community:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_INFEKTION

Operation: INFEKTION was a KGB disinformation campaign to spread information that the United States invented HIV/AIDS [2] as part of a biological weapons research project at Fort Detrick, Maryland. The Soviet Union used it to undermine the United States’ credibility, foster anti-Americanism, isolate America abroad, and create tensions between host countries and the U.S. over the presence of American military bases (which were often portrayed as the cause of AIDS outbreaks in local populations).[3]

According to U.S. State Department analysts, another reason the Soviet Union "promoted the AIDS disinformation may have been its attempt to distract international attention away from its own offensive biological warfare program, which [was monitored] for decades"--in addition to anthrax, the Soviets were believed to have developed tularemia, the plague, and cholera for biological warfare purposes, as well as botulinum toxin,enterotoxins, and mycotoxins.[4] An alternative explanation is that the operation may have been in retaliation for American accusations that the Soviets used chemical weapons in South East Asia, later dubbed the yellow rain incident.[2]
 

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This is why i'm so offended with the HIV denialism in the black community:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_INFEKTION

Operation: INFEKTION was a KGB disinformation campaign to spread information that the United States invented HIV/AIDS [2] as part of a biological weapons research project at Fort Detrick, Maryland. The Soviet Union used it to undermine the United States’ credibility, foster anti-Americanism, isolate America abroad, and create tensions between host countries and the U.S. over the presence of American military bases (which were often portrayed as the cause of AIDS outbreaks in local populations).[3]

According to U.S. State Department analysts, another reason the Soviet Union "promoted the AIDS disinformation may have been its attempt to distract international attention away from its own offensive biological warfare program, which [was monitored] for decades"--in addition to anthrax, the Soviets were believed to have developed tularemia, the plague, and cholera for biological warfare purposes, as well as botulinum toxin,enterotoxins, and mycotoxins.[4] An alternative explanation is that the operation may have been in retaliation for American accusations that the Soviets used chemical weapons in South East Asia, later dubbed the yellow rain incident.[2]
I never heard about that, and think it's something that is blowup from the author in this wikipedia page. When I was learning about the conspiracy of hiv, it was reported that it was invented in NYC not maryland. The book was not written by a black person but, a white one, and before all this conspiracy stuff got big like it is now. I read it in 1996 but, the book was written in the early 90's. I can't remember the exactly name of the book but, it was something along the lines of the origins of aids.
 

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This is why i'm so offended with the HIV denialism in the black community:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_INFEKTION

Operation: INFEKTION was a KGB disinformation campaign to spread information that the United States invented HIV/AIDS [2] as part of a biological weapons research project at Fort Detrick, Maryland. The Soviet Union used it to undermine the United States’ credibility, foster anti-Americanism, isolate America abroad, and create tensions between host countries and the U.S. over the presence of American military bases (which were often portrayed as the cause of AIDS outbreaks in local populations).[3]

According to U.S. State Department analysts, another reason the Soviet Union "promoted the AIDS disinformation may have been its attempt to distract international attention away from its own offensive biological warfare program, which [was monitored] for decades"--in addition to anthrax, the Soviets were believed to have developed tularemia, the plague, and cholera for biological warfare purposes, as well as botulinum toxin,enterotoxins, and mycotoxins.[4] An alternative explanation is that the operation may have been in retaliation for American accusations that the Soviets used chemical weapons in South East Asia, later dubbed the yellow rain incident.[2]

What do you think of this video about hiv not being "real"?. She states almost everything I read back in the day, and a video I seen that was done in the early 90's. You still think it's denialism in the black community?

 

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What do you think of this video about hiv not being "real"?. She states almost everything I read back in the day, and a video I seen that was done in the early 90's. You still think it's denialism in the black community?



Its all bullshyt. I'm not revealing my education, but a lot of the AIDS denailism has to do with the inability to cope with how serious this virus is.

Listen to this http://www.radiolab.org/2011/nov/14/

Its completely flawed arguments they use.
 

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:dead: @ Dudes really arguing against some
of the points he made.
it's fukking easy to see why idiots like Polite can
get a following.
Main reason I never watched those stupid docs.
What is "science" but yet another set of laws, written by white men, that we are expected to abide by and hold to be infallibly true?

Science is logic and reason genius.
I'd love to see you jump off a cliff and try to break
the "laws" of gravity.

Trust me no laws will be broken that day.

Yo do realize at one point dreptomania was a science, correct? Even clinical diagnosis such as schizophrenia were scientifically classified as a black illness (the main qualifier for being a schizo is a black man wanting to be a part of the civil rights movement). shyt even egyptologists tried to use "science" to prove that Africans were genetically inferior.

Do you really believe that there aren't "scientists" who have an agenda to intellectualize their racism towards African people? Just like religion, science is not above scrutiny. Especially in this country where's there's been numerous cases of whites using the science of the time to try to subjugate Africans.

OKAY AND ? Do you not realize that racists will use ANYTHING to justify their racism ?
It doesn't matter WHAT they believe in.
If you're an American you should know this !
There are many people who would've thought they were upstanding CHRISTIAN citizens
that would have given no thought to lynching a black person or justifying their outright hatred of people of color.

And on top of that Science is constantly under scrutiny, you can't get away with blatant
bullshyt in academia. I've yet to hear of any academic worth his salt in 2013 that truly
believes science can be used to justify racism.
 
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yo, this thread could've been :ohlawd: piff if you had more posters like this brother replying to napoleon.


Instead we've got butthurt tariq stans clogging up the thread with their crying.


WTF is the problem with napoleon wanting to discuss problems he had with HC1 and HC2? :stopitslime:

Because he's not really discussing problems, he's basically saying "Yo man Tariq got it wrong breh. Trust me, I got degrees and shyt :skip:"

Like I've asked dude a bunch of times, link to some scholars who he believes is right so we can have some accurate information on what he believes is wrong. All we got instead is this nikka talking bout he trying to advance the cause and make the movement perfect :comeon:

That's like a nikka going in a Kobe Bryant thread talking about how garbage he is and won't even post a player who he thought was better.

@J-Nice was the only dude to actually drop that actual factual so nikkas can read up on the works of different authors. It was just like in the previous thread on the subject. A bunch of dudes saying how much the film got wrong, not even posting a link to what they believe to accurate information, then hiding behind the bullshyt "I'm just trying to help black people" banner.
 

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:dead: @ Dudes really arguing against some
of the points he made.
it's fukking easy to see why idiots like Polite can
get a following.
Main reason I never watched those stupid docs.


Science is logic and reason genius.
I'd love to see you jump off a cliff and try to break
the "laws" of gravity.

Trust me no laws will be broken that day.

Yo do realize at one point dreptomania was a science, correct? Even clinical diagnosis such as schizophrenia were scientifically classified as a black illness (the main qualifier for being a schizo is a black man wanting to be a part of the civil rights movement). shyt even egyptologists tried to use "science" to prove that Africans were genetically inferior.

Do you really believe that there aren't "scientists" who have an agenda to intellectualize their racism towards African people? Just like religion, science is not above scrutiny. Especially in this country where's there's been numerous cases of whites using the science of the time to try to subjugate Africans.
 

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Its all bullshyt. I'm not revealing my education, but a lot of the AIDS denailism has to do with the inability to cope with how serious this virus is.

Listen to this http://www.radiolab.org/2011/nov/14/

Its completely flawed arguments they use.
Does this podcast talk about the virus itself or it's "origin". The video is about the virus itself, how it's identified, and it's effect on people. Let me know what you disagree about in the original video I linked to you.

I also am looking at these videos right now:


 

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Yo do realize at one point dreptomania was a science, correct? Even clinical diagnosis such as schizophrenia were scientifically classified as a black illness (the main qualifier for being a schizo is a black man wanting to be a part of the civil rights movement). shyt even egyptologists tried to use "science" to prove that Africans were genetically inferior.

Do you really believe that there aren't "scientists" who have an agenda to intellectualize their racism towards African people? Just like religion, science is not above scrutiny. Especially in this country where's there's been numerous cases of whites using the science of the time to try to subjugate Africans.
The fact that a lot of things that we now know is just part of being a healthy human, were once considered mental diseases make you see how crazy, and egomaniacs a lot of scientists are. This idea that scientists are just neutral in their research, and theories, is just stupid when we know how much bullshyt it is from looking at history. Certain people want to be believe that science has all the answers, that it really is their religion. They dis religious people yet they are the same way.
 
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