Saw Hidden Colors 1 & 2 and have some MAJOR beefs with some of the concepts. WATCH THE MOVIE FIRST!

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

breh what are you talking about? The pineal gland secretes melatonin which is sensitive to light. Melatonin works best during the night/dark..for sleep/healing etc. the pituitary gland has melatonin receptors that actually inhibit hyper-skin darkening (works as a balancing agent against MSH during the day/UV light). The pituitary secretes MelanocytesSH which regulates melanin, c'mon Mr. biology major I know you know this man

you so mad anyway

I have HC2 on my harddrive. The dudes were IN CORRECTLY referencing how Melanin works.

Melanin is located within the skin and STIMULATED by MSH...but melanin is not secreted from the PG.

I'm a stickler for detail. Get mad if you want to.

 

[MostReal]

I have HC2 on my harddrive. The dudes were IN CORRECTLY referencing how Melanin works.

Melanin is located within the skin and STIMULATED by MSH...but melanin is not secreted from the PG.

I'm a stickler for detail. Get mad if you want to.

they did but it isn't that important...again gain what you can from the DVD's is new/hidden history. I looked at it more for new historical reviews not science but seeing as that is your discipline I can see how it could agitate you.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

they did but it isn't that important...again gain what you can from the DVD's is new/hidden history. I looked at it more for new historical reviews not science but seeing as that is your discipline I can see how it could agitate you.

Oh. Incredible comment you've listed here.

SO WHY THE fukk INCLUDE SOMEONE WHO PROMOTES AIDS DENIALISM?

 

[MostReal]

Some of the stuff you just had to look the other way, just like I do with American black history. This isn't that hard...breh

I pretty much tried to verify everything in the documentary after I viewed the films...my thirst for knowledge was increased. This film helped me way more than any harm that could be done. I weeded out the wrongs & kept the truths. Being in the health field, the Aids stuff didn't even register as important. If you know the history of this country I wouldn't put it pass the government to harm blacks more with AIDS purposely anyway.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I liked both HC1 and HC2 and respect Tariq for taking the time out to do something that goes against the mainstream think tank we have in the media. With that said, no documentary is 100% accurate and rarely do we see something that is the first of it's kind perfect. It almost feels like people are holding Tariq to some sort of higher standard than normal. HC2 was an improvement on HC1 and I'm sure HC3 will be an improvement on HC2. A documentary that is 75% accurate is pretty damn good to me seeing that the same 75% normally gets tossed in the bushes whenever the media/system tries to give it's view.

I looked at the documentaries as something that would help push black folks into wanting to find out more about their rich ancestry and history. Some people might have looked at them differently and had different expectations so I can understand where people are coming from.

Bacon's Rebellion gets overlooked a lot and I feel it should be addressed in HC3 because it helps paint a clearer picture of racial tensions that we have now. I can't fault the man for not putting it in the other doc's since they have to cover so much and I'm not expecting something perfect.

Tariq wants people to send him ideas on what the theme for HC3 should be so if nikkas really wanna make suggestions or fix inaccuracies now is the time to hit dude up.

 

[Spoonz]

I've been told Hidden Colors is the GOAT documentary.

Still need to watch it, but y'all seem pretty divided

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Some of the stuff you just had to look the other way, just like I do with American black history. This isn't that hard...breh

I pretty much tried to verify everything in the documentary after I viewed the films...my thirst for knowledge was increased. This film helped me way more than any harm that could be done. I weeded out the wrongs & kept the truths. Being in the health field, the Aids stuff didn't even register as important. If you know the history of this country I wouldn't put it pass the government to harm blacks more with AIDS purposely anyway.

I'm not excusing anything the government has done, but AIDS is always tricky for some communities because its associated with gays (inaccurately) and the fear of coming to terms that it originated in africa (which is true)

So people love to drum up anti-US govt sentiment by making it sound like they made AIDS at Ft. Detrick or some shyt. I've heard Umar say that fukk shyt several times too.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I liked both HC1 and HC2 and respect Tariq for taking the time out to do something that goes against the mainstream think tank we have in the media. With that said, no documentary is 100% accurate and rarely do we see something that is the first of it's kind perfect. It almost feels like people are holding Tariq to some sort of higher standard than normal. HC2 was an improvement on HC1 and I'm sure HC3 will be an improvement on HC2. A documentary that is 75% accurate is pretty damn good to me seeing that the same 75% normally gets tossed in the bushes whenever the media/system tries to give it's view.

I looked at the documentaries as something that would help push black folks into wanting to find out more about their rich ancestry and history. Some people might have looked at them differently and had different expectations so I can understand where people are coming from.

Bacon's Rebellion gets overlooked a lot and I feel it should be addressed in HC3 because it helps paint a clearer picture of racial tensions that we have now. I can't fault the man for not putting it in the other doc's since they have to cover so much and I'm not expecting something perfect.

Tariq wants people to send him ideas on what the theme for HC3 should be so if nikkas really wanna make suggestions or fix inaccuracies now is the time to hit dude up.

75% is pretty low as a standard.

see, the documentaries spend like 2 minutes per topic. You could tell they were trying to just spread as much and cover as much ground as possible, so when you're doing that and you don't want to go really deep into topics, then I can't excuse playing fast and loose with certain things.

You can't say "well i'm just starting conversation" then try and evade criticism when the very things you want people to take as fact...is not factual.

 

[FLORIDA BOI]

my whole life iv learned alot through school , alot history ended up being . iv seen HC 1 & 2 i hope there is BS in there i mean all the ish you learned over your life u HAD to take as the truth dont even compare gtfoh . i fuks wit tariq and HC for that alone

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

I'm not sure, but most of the information that was given in both films have mainly been from the works of John henrik Clarke, Ivan Van Sertima, J.A Rogers, and Cheikh Anta Diop. If you read books from these well trained and educated researchers, then you can easily find the sources that you're looking for. Many of which come from other dedicated authors, researchers, and scientist. But the research shouldn't stop at these men. After all there is a new generation of black geneticist and historians doing great work in the field such as Kittles and Keita to name a few. Hope that helped.

yo, this thread could've been piff if you had more posters like this brother replying to napoleon.


Instead we've got butthurt tariq stans clogging up the thread with their crying.


WTF is the problem with napoleon wanting to discuss problems he had with HC1 and HC2?

 

[emoney]

I've been told Hidden Colors is the GOAT documentary.

Still need to watch it, but y'all seem pretty divided

watch it BUT fact check all the claims being made.

If you don't have the time make a list of all the key or skeptical claims being made in the film and then do the research later on

 

[MostReal]

watch it BUT fact check all the claims being made.

If you don't have the time make a list of all the key or skeptical claims being made in the film and then do the research later on

this is correct. I did this with both films and I still loved both of them for what they offered

 

[WaveGang]

Mansa Musa is Montezuma?
Cannibalism NEVER happening in Africa?
Melanin being a super chemical and Melanin being a fetal developer of "soul?" This just shows a lack of understanding of modern biology and embryology. Its kinda embarrassing. Its largely pseudoscience: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanin_theory
Africa isn't violent. Ok. Lets be fukking real. The place is largely unstable as fukk. Not saying its all kids toting guns, but its definitely mostly poor and examples of growth are few and far inbetween.
All moors are black? As if North Africans are the same as West, East, and Southern Africans? Really?
The focus on Egypt is pretty narrow and limited. Not everything black is from Egypt. Its been "arab" for a REALLY long time.
Astrological superiority? What? Stop it.
Scottish people are africans because of black beards? Really?
Nations are falling based on how they invaded africa? Really?

Lets talk about Moors.

Not every single "melanated" person is a moor. Lets just be serious now. thats like saying Ethiopians are the same as Nigerians.

Its just fukking false.

Yes. They ran shyt in the Mediterranean area for a bit...but YOU...TODAY...aren't a moor. Just be serious with yourself.

They DID get some stuff right as to the formation of the KKK being mostly economically based and a response to white male unemployment, the psychology of american education and mental disease, religious iconography being misused, and pre-columbian contact, lost images of african influence of culture and architecture, black patron saints, black samurais, efforts to hide dark skin representations in the media, Gandhi being racist, asian and pacific influence of african lineage, etc.

I understand the desire to be pro-black and to uncover the source of lost history, but theres NO need to make shyt up with pseudointellectual speculation and let unfounded, unsubstantiated assertions run wild. If you're going to do that, at least try to go deeper into information and support what you're saying with detail.

Its not helping your/our case. There is TOO MUCH positivity to be shared in these films to be marred by SIMPLE errors.

EDIT:

Here is my challenge to everyone in this thread:

I don't care how you "get" the documentaries. Watch them tonight and tell me if ya'll have ANY problem with the content in there.

Ya'll can't tell me you agree with 100% of EVERYTHING in these films.

so many mistakes, cba to correct too tired

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

75% is pretty low as a standard.

see, the documentaries spend like 2 minutes per topic. You could tell they were trying to just spread as much and cover as much ground as possible, so when you're doing that and you don't want to go really deep into topics, then I can't excuse playing fast and loose with certain things.

You can't say "well i'm just starting conversation" then try and evade criticism when the very things you want people to take as fact...is not factual.

Like I said breh, it's hard to get something perfect the very first time out especially when it's the first of it's kind.
Right now it all comes down to perspective. You think 75% is a pretty low standard and I think it's a pretty decent standard when you look at the big picture. I rather celebrate the things he did get correctly and the shyt he missed a few steps on I'll just disregard just like I been doing in general wit shyt in life.

When it's all said and done, if anybody really wants to insure scientific standards and accuracies for HC3 they can just hit dude up and voice their opinion and show their research and facts. Threads like this don't accomplish much because you hardly get enough objective heads to discuss shyt. You either gon have nikkas stanning Tariq/HC extra hard or nikkas hating Tariq/HC extra hard, but it's whatever though. I'm not trying to go back and forth with shyt like this since I enjoyed the documentaries for what I felt they were intended to be which was a starting foundation to progressively seek more history and knowledge of our culture.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Like I said breh, it's hard to get something perfect the very first time out especially when it's the first of it's kind.
Right now it all comes down to perspective. You think 75% is a pretty low standard and I think it's a pretty decent standard when you look at the big picture. I rather celebrate the things he did get correctly and the shyt he missed a few steps on I'll just disregard just like I been doing in general wit shyt in life.

When it's all said and done, if anybody really wants to insure scientific standards and accuracies for HC3 they can just hit dude up and voice their opinion and show their research and facts. Threads like this don't accomplish much because you hardly get enough objective heads to discuss shyt. You either gon have nikkas stanning Tariq/HC extra hard or nikkas hating Tariq/HC extra hard, but it's whatever though. I'm not trying to go back and forth with shyt like this since I enjoyed the documentaries for what I felt they were intended to be which was a starting foundation to progressively seek more history and knowledge of our culture.

Sorry but...you'd have been better off not responding to me.

I'm not excusing AIDS DENIALISM as par for the course.

Come on now.

I've given the films props, but you can't be serious with that mess.