Saw Hidden Colors 1 & 2 and have some MAJOR beefs with some of the concepts. WATCH THE MOVIE FIRST!

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The fact that a lot of things that we now know is just part of being a healthy human, were once considered mental diseases make you see how crazy, and egomaniacs a lot of scientists are. This idea that scientists are just neutral in their research, and theories, is just stupid when we know how much bullshyt it is from looking at history. Certain people want to be believe that science has all the answers, that it really is their religion. They dis religious people yet they are the same way.

Cosign. It's the same with religious black folk when you tell them about the bullshyt iconography in Christianity. They think that the same people who were using black babies as bait for hunting alligators and made lynching a family event are gonna somehow go "Now let's not use Christianity as a tool to keep these nikkas in check, we have to draw the line somewhere :whoa:"

Science is the interpretation of data, inherently it's neither fair nor neutral. Scientists can be just as racist as historians, theologians, and politicians, and they'll use their area of influence to ensure white supremacy remains the order of the land.
 

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Does this podcast talk about the virus itself or it's "origin". The video is about the virus itself, how it's identified, and it's effect on people. Let me know what you disagree about in the original video I linked to you.

I also am looking at these videos right now:




I really don't know what the fukk is your problem and with other AIDS deniers.

Why is there a conspiracy around AIDS and not Herpes or Polio?

Think about that.

Its just uncomfortable for people to deal with so they come up with various things they want to be true without understanding the actual basis of the disease itself.

I'm on the verge of asking for formal education in the sciences as well.

HIV exists. Its similar to SIV found in old world monkeys. It mutates. End of story.

I really don't see the problem here.
 

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The fact that a lot of things that we now know is just part of being a healthy human, were once considered mental diseases make you see how crazy, and egomaniacs a lot of scientists are. This idea that scientists are just neutral in their research, and theories, is just stupid when we know how much bullshyt it is from looking at history. Certain people want to be believe that science has all the answers, that it really is their religion. They dis religious people yet they are the same way.

And this is where you're wrong.

1. Don't equate mental health scientists with actual scientists. A lot of mental health professionals make ultimately arbitrary asessments. Read up on the criticisms from people like Foucalt and Szasz.

2. Science DOES have the answers, dumbass. Religion isn't open to being wrong. Science doesn't claim to always be right. It claims to assess evidence.

3. I see how much of dire straits you're in to make it seem like AIDS is some conspiracy meant to take out black people (which couldn't be more wrong) but you have to start backing up what you're saying unless I start pulling your card about your inability to understand basic virology, immunology, or biochemsitry.
 

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Cosign. It's the same with religious black folk when you tell them about the bullshyt iconography in Christianity. They think that the same people who were using black babies as bait for hunting alligators and made lynching a family event are gonna somehow go "Now let's not use Christianity as a tool to keep these nikkas in check, we have to draw the line somewhere :whoa:"

Science is the interpretation of data, inherently it's neither fair nor neutral. Scientists can be just as racist as historians, theologians, and politicians, and they'll use their area of influence to ensure white supremacy remains the order of the land.

False.

Its the testing of hypotheses to a reliable and replicable degree.

Thats it.

The problem is when people make statements above and beyond the scale in which evidence is intended to support.
 

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I really don't know what the fukk is your problem and with other AIDS deniers.

Why is there a conspiracy around AIDS and not Herpes or Polio?

Think about that.

Its just uncomfortable for people to deal with so they come up with various things they want to be true without understanding the actual basis of the disease itself.

I'm on the verge of asking for formal education in the sciences as well.

HIV exists. Its similar to SIV found in old world monkeys. It mutates. End of story.

I really don't see the problem here.
Why the disrespect, I'm just asking you a question?. Since you say you are adept in science, I want to hear your side of why people who view hiv differently then mainstream media, are wrong. I understand the jargon so you can go deep with me. Let me know what you think is wrong in the video?.
 

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Yo do realize at one point dreptomania was a science, correct? Even clinical diagnosis such as schizophrenia were scientifically classified as a black illness (the main qualifier for being a schizo is a black man wanting to be a part of the civil rights movement). shyt even egyptologists tried to use "science" to prove that Africans were genetically inferior.

Do you really believe that there aren't "scientists" who have an agenda to intellectualize their racism towards African people? Just like religion, science is not above scrutiny. Especially in this country where's there's been numerous cases of whites using the science of the time to try to subjugate Africans.

You're trying to equate mental health pseudoscience (which you and I might agree on to some degree) to whether or not AIDS/HIV exists?

Really now?
 

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Why the disrespect, I'm just asking you a question?. Since you say you are adept in science, I want to hear your side of why people who view hiv differently then mainstream media, are wrong. I understand the jargon so you can go deep with me. Let me know what you think is wrong in the video?.

These people can be proven wrong with a trip to a BSL3/4 laboratory and an electron microscope.

I'd love to think why you think HIV doesn't exist and is some conspiracy rather than that you've been duped by your curiosity to think you've more "clued in" than the rest of us.

HIV exists.
 

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False.

Its the testing of hypotheses to a reliable and replicable degree.

Thats it.

The problem is when people make statements above and beyond the scale in which evidence is intended to support.
Which is another way of saying "we all have come to an agreement that this is what that means". The "we" is why it can be biased.
 

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Which is another way of saying "we all have come to an agreement that this is what that means". The "we" is why it can be biased.

Its not biased.

Thats what you don't understand about epistemology.

Stop equating mental health research with biological research.

No where near the same level of objectivity.
 

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You're trying to equate mental health pseudoscience (which you and I might agree on to some degree) to whether or not AIDS/HIV exists?

Really now?

No, I'm letting the dude I quoted know that historically, whites have tried to use science subjugate African people. Are you denything that?

False.

Its the testing of hypotheses to a reliable and replicable degree.

Thats it.

The problem is when people make statements above and beyond the scale in which evidence is intended to support.

Science is the interpretation of that data. It's why you have people labeled as scientific racists who take data and interpret it in certain ways to fit their world view.

I know you want to believe that all scientists take the data and just present their findings without bias, but we have a long history in this country that proves the contrary.

Here's an article proving my point. It states blacks are genetically more violent than other races.

http://theunsilencedscience.blogspot.com/2012/12/scientists-rediscover-violence-gene.html
 

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These people can be proven wrong with a trip to a BSL3/4 laboratory and an electron microscope.
You obviously don't know what the other side thinks, and you didn't watch the video. That was the first thing talked about. The first thing stated was people don't know how to read an electron microscope, being that it's an art, and science to it. Also, normal cells produce retrovirus Reverse transciptase, so it would be hard to distinguish if what you see is from hiv or something else. Then you have to take into account with purification their are so many things within the cell that makes it hard to purify hiv itself.

Look at this video, and go to 26:09, as it deal with the elctro micrograph of "hiv"

 

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Its not biased.

Thats what you don't understand about epistemology.

Stop equating mental health research with biological research.

No where near the same level of objectivity.

Are you insinuating that whites, in this country, has never used science as a means of subjugating black people?
 

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@lotty, the guy in your first video is a Nobel Prize winner. So? Just because he got one thing right doesn't mean he got everything else right. Nobel winners are notorious for going off the rails trying to prove a bunch of untrue shyt after they win because of the magnanity of the award. Even Dr. Gallo tried to come back and say HIV didn't exist when he discovered the damn thing. These people have been proven wrong time and time again. Dr. Montagnier even supports homeopathy. :snoop:
 

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You obviously don't know what the other side thinks, and you didn't watch the video. That was the first thing talked about. The first thing stated was people don't know how to read an electron microscope, being that it's an art, and science to it. Also, normal cells produce retrovirus Reverse transciptase, so it would be hard to distinguish if what you see is from hiv or something else. Then you have to take into account with purification their are so many things within the cell that makes it hard to purify hiv itself.
Look at this video, and go to 26:09, as it deal with the elctro micrograph of "hiv"


Which even if its true doesn't matter since HIV HAS IT WITHIN ITSELF.

This is just further skepticism used to make it seem like HIV and supporting data around it is less solid than it is.
 

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Are you insinuating that whites, in this country, has never used science as a means of subjugating black people?
The more I read his posts, the more I realize he doesn't really know or at least, understand the things he are posting. He is saying epistemology isn't biased, then says stop equating mental health research with biological research, when epistemology is a philosophy!. Yes, you can say epistemology isn't biased but, someone who has an agenda can easily be biased if they see something while doing biological research. It's called being a trickster. I show you something, then tell you it means something, when it may not mean that at all but, the reason I interpret it one way is because of how I view things or what I have knowledge of. That doesn't mean that is what the finding IS.
 
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