Scarface says rap is "sounding stupider and stupider"

[The Mad Titan]

The white man owns rap and R&B soul.


Jay and Beyonce tried fighting against with the way they dropped there albums. Kanye is being driving insane by it and everyone else is just riding the wave.


We'll get it back when its no longer profitable at all... we starting to see that happen now with the rise of euro and country and club tracks.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Jay has put it down before. Like I said, Face isn't the first and he won't be the last. Jay said a while ago that hip hop has lost its spark and its rebelliousness and the only place he can find it is in indie rock

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/16027/jay-z-indie-rock-more-rebellious-than-hip-hop/

I feel like you should be able to have constructive criticism of the thing you love and because you love it that much, you're going to have stronger opinions about it

Yeah, I wouldn't put it past him to be a fan of country since he from Texas and musically inclined.

Saying something is not as rebellious is not the same as saying something is "stupider"
Especially someone named "SCARFACE"

 

[CrimsonTider]

The white man owns rap and R&B soul.


Jay and Beyonce tried fighting against with the way they dropped there albums. Kanye is being driving insane by it and everyone else is just riding the wave.


We'll get it back when its no longer profitable at all... we starting to see that happen now with the rise of euro and country and club tracks.

No, We will get back to it when you and everyone one else that complains about it actually supports the shyt you like.

But, that Idea seems to escape most of you... its much easier to complain

 

[MartyMcFly]

Why should rappers rap about anything other than what they want to?

Rap music is entertainment... THAT's it. Rappers have 1 job, That's to entertain.

These guys are not scholars, educators, activists. Why should they make music about that type of stuff?

Again, that's HIS opinion man and what he wants and what he's used to. I'm not going to criticize the man for what he wants from his hip hop.

 

[MartyMcFly]

No, We will get back to it when you and everyone one else that complains about it actually supports the shyt you like.

But, that Idea seems to escape most of you... its much easier to complain

And ultimately, you're right. If you want a certain type of shyt to prevail then you gotta put your money where your mouth is

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

You know rap is dead when people from the south are complaining about the quality of music

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Dude by socially, he wants the genre to speak on the social ills going on in the world today, that's what he's talking about anytime he speaks on the music. He's looking to hear someone talk about a lack of jobs, unemployment numbers being high, the crime wave in a lot of urban cities, politics of the day, etc etc. Now if that's not what you want in your hip hop cool but that's what he wants and he's entitled to his feelings

but he's finding that in country and rock?

I get that's he's a respected artist from the 90's, and "bytching about hip hop" is pretty much an official Element of Hip Hop...and that jaded cliched stuff like this will always find a welcoming ear on messegeboards....it's his opinion and all, but doesn't it actually have to make sense at some point and hold up to reality...or nah?

Like...literally the most mainstream rap music there is right now has that type of sh!t in SPADES in compared to rock and country...here are the top 10 selling rap albums of the most recent year

02 - 1,727,000 - THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP 2 - Eminem
07 - 1,344,000 - NOTHING WAS THE SAME - Drake
10 - 1,099,000 - MAGNA CARTA...HOLY GRAIL - Jay-Z
13 - 1,018,000 - THE HEIST - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis
28 - 656,000 - BORN SINNER - J Cole
29 - 626,000 - YEEZUS - Kanye West
34 - 587,000 - I AM NOT A HUMAN BEING II - Lil Wayne
40 - 542,000 - GOOD KID M.A.A.D CITY - Kendrick Lamar
55 - 443,000 - LONG.LIVE.A$AP - A$AP Rocky
78 - 343,000 - THE GIFTED - Wale

From this list alone you have music that speaks on everything from the ills of the prison industrial complex to coming to grips with homophobia to the effects of gang violence on inner city youth to how promiscuity often times has roots in emotional abuse to the ill effects of unchecked capitalism to america's history of exploiting it's poor...and etc. etc....what popular country and rock acts are doing this more than hip hop? And mind you, these are just the top 10 MOST POPULAR rap albums...not even considering a vast undergound scene...where is all this "brilliant" social commentary in mainstream country and rock?

 

[The Mad Titan]

No, We will get back to it when you and everyone one else that complains about it actually supports the shyt you like.

But, that Idea seems to escape most of you... its much easier to complain

What the hell are you even talking about, you thinking mad basic my nikka. Every black person in the US could by Kendrick lamar's CD that doesn't change the fact that A) the white man (labels) are going to drain black entertainers and culture for all it is worth as long as we let them B) We do support what we like that's why the BS thats on the radio and is on none stop, it was all over every station for a few years though. You couldn't tell a hiphop station from most others.


Its starting to smooth out now, the ignorant joints are "less cool" and more looked at as being Dumb... which still doesn't help us as black folk.


Hiphop album sales are struggling no one is buying the one hit wonder albums anymore. nikka's dropping 2-3 albums a year now trying to make the money they were making off one.


Hell even wayne bowed out last year



personally I've bought more albums and tracks this year/last than i have in the last 4-5 years.

 

[MartyMcFly]

but he's finding that in country and rock?

I get that's he's a respected artist from the 90's, and "bytching about hip hop" is pretty much an official Element of Hip Hop...and that jaded cliched stuff like this will always find a welcoming ear on messegeboards....it's his opinion and all, but doesn't it actually have to make sense at some point and hold up to reality...or nah?

Like...literally the most mainstream rap music there is right now has that type of sh!t in SPADES in compared to rock and country...here are the top 10 selling rap albums of the most recent year

02 - 1,727,000 - THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP 2 - Eminem
07 - 1,344,000 - NOTHING WAS THE SAME - Drake
10 - 1,099,000 - MAGNA CARTA...HOLY GRAIL - Jay-Z
13 - 1,018,000 - THE HEIST - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis
28 - 656,000 - BORN SINNER - J Cole
29 - 626,000 - YEEZUS - Kanye West
34 - 587,000 - I AM NOT A HUMAN BEING II - Lil Wayne
40 - 542,000 - GOOD KID M.A.A.D CITY - Kendrick Lamar
55 - 443,000 - LONG.LIVE.A$AP - A$AP Rocky
78 - 343,000 - THE GIFTED - Wale

From this list alone you have music that speaks on everything from the ills of the prison industrial complex to coming to grips with homophobia to the effects of gang violence on inner city youth to how promiscuity often times has roots in emotional abuse to the ill effects of unchecked capitalism to america's history of exploiting it's poor...and etc. etc....what popular country and rock acts are doing this more than hip hop? And you, these are just the top 10 MOST POPULAR rap albums...not even considering a vast undergound scene...where is all this "brilliant" social commentary in mainstream country and rock?

All good points breh, I'm just telling you where I think he's coming from. I think with those other genres, he sees more soul in them and more love and passion. I can't speak for dude, I'm not him

 

[Wild self]

he aint lyin.. look at Migos they went full retard

Migos is for kids that were raised on trap music. Scarface also left out that some people in his generation that shytted on Geto Boyz and Public Enemy for being "too conscious." Hell, even Sticky Fingaz shytted on Chuck D for being too positive, and that was back in the 90s. It ain't the corporations fault, its the hard headed nikkas that ran them out the industry because they didn't give in to the stereotypes.

 

[Wild self]

This same argument was made in the 90s when everyone was a 'gangsta rapper'

Gangsta rap planted the seeds to ignorance we see today. Just that people are just realizing the consequences in the long-term and see how it fukked up everything.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Migos is for kids that were raised on trap music. Scarface also left out that some people in his generation that shytted on Geto Boyz and Public Enemy for being "too conscious." Hell, even Sticky Fingaz shytted on Chuck D for being too positive, and that was back in the 90s. It ain't the corporations fault, its the hard headed nikkas that ran them out the industry because they didn't give in to the stereotypes.

For every nikka talking down on a legend there will be two or three other cats giving him props. Sticky shytted on Chuck D but I rarely if ever heard any other artist from that era dump on PE or any other similar group. But that's how its always going to be

 

[The Mad Titan]

Gangsta rap planted the seeds to ignorance we see today. Just that people are just realizing the consequences in the long-term and see how it fukked up everything.

I agree with this 110 percent

 

[infamousred]

any new music i've heard has taken a dive. it's all about money and not the talent. anyone who really has skill never gets heard on a mainstream level anymore. kanye(as far the beats go), is about the only one i can think of at the current time. he's the "safe" dude tho. same with eminem(because of his skin color, as to which he's admitted)
and as to what scarface was saying about his influences(basically), i complely understand it. i remember his cribs episode showing a cd of rod stewart. who would one of these "new" artists show as one of their (recent)influences?

 

[Wild self]

The white man owns rap and R&B soul.


Jay and Beyonce tried fighting against with the way they dropped there albums. Kanye is being driving insane by it and everyone else is just riding the wave.


We'll get it back when its no longer profitable at all... we starting to see that happen now with the rise of euro and country and club tracks.

Black folk did ti to themselves when the chose the clubs over the churches to mold their talent.