Scarface says rap is "sounding stupider and stupider"

[The War Report]

You know you have a problem when White people are doing that soul shyt better than black folks. :yeaok:

 

[Wild self]

For every nikka talking down on a legend there will be two or three other cats giving him props. Sticky shytted on Chuck D but I rarely if ever heard any other artist from that era dump on PE or any other similar group. But that's how its always going to be

A lot of people shytted on PE and De La Soul. a lot of pro-black groups got ran out and that was how the West Coast rose to dominance in the early 90s with the beats and the negative content that caused controversy. Also you saw the bloods and crips expand outside of Cali for the first time and everyone wanted to be that super thugged out nikka that wanted to be the HNIC.

 

[Wild self]

What the hell are you even talking about, you thinking mad basic my nikka. Every black person in the US could by Kendrick lamar's CD that doesn't change the fact that A) the white man (labels) are going to drain black entertainers and culture for all it is worth as long as we let them B) We do support what we like that's why the BS thats on the radio and is on none stop, it was all over every station for a few years though. You couldn't tell a hiphop station from most others.


Its starting to smooth out now, the ignorant joints are "less cool" and more looked at as being Dumb... which still doesn't help us as black folk.


Hiphop album sales are struggling no one is buying the one hit wonder albums anymore. nikka's dropping 2-3 albums a year now trying to make the money they were making off one.


Hell even wayne bowed out last year



personally I've bought more albums and tracks this year/last than i have in the last 4-5 years.

With Wayne remaining low key and the ignorant (trap) rap beginning to be cliche, this is the chance of GKMC type albums to thrive in this era. Problem is, record sales are on the verge of extinction and even record companies that profited off of ignorant music now know that skilled rappers may be their last chance to survive.

 

[MartyMcFly]

A lot of people shytted on PE and De La Soul. a lot of pro-black groups got ran out and that was how the West Coast rose to dominance in the early 90s with the beats and the negative content that caused controversy. Also you saw the bloods and crips expand outside of Cali for the first time and everyone wanted to be that super thugged out nikka that wanted to be the HNIC.

But see I don't lump De La in to the same type of level as PE which is why I didn't mention them because I know Pac in particular called them out on numerous occasions and they clearly had issues with the way the game was going and they spoke on it but I'm also not one of those people who will blame societies ills on music. We can't talk about the music of the era or the crime of the era without discussing the politics and society ills of the era that bread it. A lot of the shyt from the 90s was in direct response to the environment a lot of blacks were living in at the time whether out in Cali or NYC or down south. We can't blame our media on everything, eventually we have to take responsibility for ourselves

 

[Wild self]

You know you have a problem when White people are doing that soul shyt better than black folks. :yeaok:

That is cause black folk chose listen to trap music in the clubs over listening to old school, smooth R & B with their s/o

Hey, that is what happens when simps get in control

 

[Jone2three45]

Face is right.

 

[Wild self]

But see I don't lump De La in to the same type of level as PE which is why I didn't mention them because I know Pac in particular called them out on numerous occasions and they clearly had issues with the way the game was going and they spoke on it but I'm also not one of those people who will blame societies ills on music. We can't talk about the music of the era or the crime of the era without discussing the politics and society ills of the era that bread it. A lot of the shyt from the 90s was in direct response to the environment a lot of blacks were living in at the time whether out in Cali or NYC or down south. We can't blame our media on everything, eventually we have to take responsibility for ourselves

No, I think you misinterpreted what I said. I blame black folk for giving in to music that made bad conditions worse, mentally speaking. When people rebelled against the people that defended them and harped about the "streets" all damn day over being themselves, that is mental brainwashing that was done from within.

 

[MartyMcFly]

No, I think you misinterpreted what I said. I blame black folk for giving in to music that made bad conditions worse, mentally speaking. When people rebelled against the people that defended them and harped about the "streets" all damn day over being themselves, that is mental brainwashing that was done from within.

I can't say I agree with you entirely but I feel where you're coming from

 

[Crakface]

Rap music is erasing your mind so you can be rebuilt as a bytch nikka.

 

[Dada]

He's telling the truth.

 

[CrimsonTider]

any new music i've heard has taken a dive. it's all about money and not the talent. anyone who really has skill never gets heard on a mainstream level anymore. kanye(as far the beats go), is about the only one i can think of at the current time. he's the "safe" dude tho. same with eminem(because of his skin color, as to which he's admitted)
and as to what scarface was saying about his influences(basically), i complely understand it. i remember his cribs episode showing a cd of rod stewart. who would one of these "new" artists show as one of their (recent)influences?

Talent has never been at the forefront of rap.
Rap has been and will always be party music

He's telling the truth.

He's not.

 

[Nature Boy Ric Flair]

MY nikkaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[SunZoo]

but he's finding that in country and rock?

I get that's he's a respected artist from the 90's, and "bytching about hip hop" is pretty much an official Element of Hip Hop...and that jaded cliched stuff like this will always find a welcoming ear on messegeboards....it's his opinion and all, but doesn't it actually have to make sense at some point and hold up to reality...or nah?

Like...literally the most mainstream rap music there is right now has that type of sh!t in SPADES in compared to rock and country...here are the top 10 selling rap albums of the most recent year

02 - 1,727,000 - THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP 2 - Eminem
07 - 1,344,000 - NOTHING WAS THE SAME - Drake
10 - 1,099,000 - MAGNA CARTA...HOLY GRAIL - Jay-Z
13 - 1,018,000 - THE HEIST - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis
28 - 656,000 - BORN SINNER - J Cole
29 - 626,000 - YEEZUS - Kanye West
34 - 587,000 - I AM NOT A HUMAN BEING II - Lil Wayne
40 - 542,000 - GOOD KID M.A.A.D CITY - Kendrick Lamar
55 - 443,000 - LONG.LIVE.A$AP - A$AP Rocky
78 - 343,000 - THE GIFTED - Wale

From this list alone you have music that speaks on everything from the ills of the prison industrial complex to coming to grips with homophobia to the effects of gang violence on inner city youth to how promiscuity often times has roots in emotional abuse to the ill effects of unchecked capitalism to america's history of exploiting it's poor...and etc. etc....what popular country and rock acts are doing this more than hip hop? And mind you, these are just the top 10 MOST POPULAR rap albums...not even considering a vast undergound scene...where is all this "brilliant" social commentary in mainstream country and rock?

would have repped you for this, great post.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Talent has never been at the forefront of rap.
Rap has been and will always be party music



He's not.

Breh, hip hop has always been a lot of things, not just one thing. So if you want the party music cool you got that but lets not act like Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5 didn't change the game or at least help change it and show that you could do more than one thing in the genre. So you saying that hip hop has always been and always will be party music is just as bad as other cats saying it shouldn't be party music. Some of us like more content in our hip hop and that's not on some silly shyt, there's precedent for it. And for a lot of people, talent is key to it, maybe not to you but for me and I'm sure a lot of dudes on here, if you're garbage on that mic then plain and simple. If you disagree cool but let's not act like this is some foreign concept, especially on a hip hop message board where most of us got into the music because we liked what cats were saying and how they said it.

 

[Harry B]

It was def better when these Nkggas invented music that talked about murkin cats, people who were "normal" were fakkits, promoting black on black violence etc.

Imo there is stupid rap, although that peaked almost a decade ago. The biggest stars today are Drake, Cole, Macklemore, Kdot, Wale, Yeezud, Jay, Nas, Eninem and them.. How the duck are these cats taking stupid shyt? They are a lot more reasonable than any top class of rappers have been since the 80s.

I respect face to death but this is some bitter old ass Larry Holmes shyt.


Typed from a fuzzy device.