Schoolboy Q's "Habits & Contradictions" is overrated on this site

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It was a top 5 album of 2012 for me, there were a couple misses like "Sexting" but overall it was a banger, cohesive sound, and Q has a pretty original style. I'm looking forward to more joints like "Blessed" on Oxymoron.
 

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For starters... the album is good but not as great as people on this site make it out to be (and certainly not even close to being better than GKMC). It has a decent concept, good replay value, and the "hits" out of the "hits and misses" are top of the bleacher homeruns. However, I don't know why this album's imperfections are so overlooked.

First off, the production is cool but there are glaring problems. I understand it's an independent album so everything is not gonna sound top of the brass expensive, but there are definitely some pedestrian beats on here (see "My Hatin' Joint", "Grooveline Pt. 1", and "nikkaHs.already.know.davers.flow"). Then you have the piss-poor produced songs like "Nightmare On Figg St.", "Druggys Wit Hoes Again", and "Sexting". That's already 6 average/shytty beats scattered on the album, way too much for supposedly album of the year.

I understand Schoolboy Q isn't meant to be placed in the same box as Ab-Soul and Kendrick, he's a gangster rapper and doesn't do the big words conscious deal, but he didn't impress me with any verses on here. His subject matter and flows were good, but I could listen to Dom Kennedy's Yellow Album if I wanted to hear mediocre rapping with good productions/concepts.

His delivery can be corny. When he tries to yell on the tracks and be all aggressive and whatnot, it ruins the song cuz the voice isn't convincing enough. When he sticks to his regular voice and delivery, (Sacrilegious, Gangsta In Designer, My Homie, Raymond 1969) it turns out to be a classic. I just listened to that new Yay Yay track, and the production and hook is good but once he starts rapping with that shytty ass delivery it fukks everything up. This is why Kendrick & Jay Rock are the first ones to be signed out of TDE; they have a good bravado delivery and can ride a beat like no other, especially Kendrick.

It's a good album, but definitely not better than good kid, mAAd city and definitely not album of the year. I honestly thought Ab-Soul's album was better and sounded more fresh. Please, if you disagree, explain to me how this album is better than Kendrick's.

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I read your whole post too! simply out of respect for the fact that you listened to the whole album before posting your opinion about it unlike a large percent of posters here...but did you actually listen or just let it play in the background while paintin' your nails or someshyt? smfh
 

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This was inspired by the recent strands of Q threads, but I've felt this way about the album for a while and a lot of posts relating to the album came before these past 2 days.

It doesn't take a vastly distinct taste in production to determine if a beat is hot or not. If it's mediocre or on the fringe, then that's when a person's taste can factor in, but I really can't see how anyone can disagree with me about beats like "Sexting" and "Druggys Wit Hoes Again". Taste in music usually concerns genres, not certain sounds in one genre alone (but that's neither here nor there)

As far as the music not trying to be anything more, I would have to disagree . It's a concept album, contrasting habits of his old vs. contradictions. I wouldn't even say that there a lot of party tracks on the album, most of them are conceptual and contemplative. H&C is definitely more varied but I would actually say its a darker album than GKMC. I mean, like I said, its a great album and I enjoy it, but its not flawless and isn't, in my opinion, a contender against Kendrick's album.
As far as the beats, like I said, I don't think it was a simple case of hot or not. Hot or not alone makes me think of guys that are expecting 18 tracks of up tempo bangers or something. I don't feel any track on the album was filler and the production (and sequencing of tracks) is why I feel that way. If you had said Sexting and Druggys were overly simple I could agree, but pedestrian/piss poor screams of missing the point. Those beats aren't supposed to be stars of the album. The album doesn't really have stars. It's a steady journey all the way through, which is why I think so many people say they can listen to it front to back with no skipping.

I've heard Q in interviews talk about the concept of the album and it's pretty clear based off Sacrilegious and Blessed and the ups and downs the albums goes through. But Q isn't hitting us over the head with a concept like GKMC. I don't see GKMC as being dark so I agree with H&C being darker. But I wasn't talking about party tracks when I said the soundtrack to an alcohol, drug and hoe filled night. Dude could literally make a movie based on a night of drinking, smoking, popping pills, and bytches off of this album. And yes those introspective moments fit into that. Everyone knows how we get into our thoughts when we're fukked up. Q just didn't feel the need to have Keenan Ivory Wayans yell "Message!" throughout the album. Hence me saying the album isn't trying to be more than it is. But if you look at the sequencing of songs I think it fits that theory. The first third is somewhat more energetic and uptempo and you even have Hands on the Wheel letting you know what time it is. By the time you get to How We Feeling you can tell everyone is in the midst of tripping off something. The come down/clarity is the remainder of the album.
 

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Its dope but certain heads gas it up to be a classic. Def not better than Kendricks last two projects. Its solid but thats about it.
 

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solid, probably top 10 of 2012 but it's not fukking with LIG or GKMC and it's well known, the 2 best albums of 2012, hands down.
 

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i cant believe there's even a thread about this. who the fukk was gassing this up? either you sincerely liked it or you didnt. :snoop:
 
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