Seems like the all-star game will be USA vs team world edit “take out all the players that’s 35 years old out then you have a good game

All-star USA Vs Team world

  • All-star USA

    Votes: 7 53.8%
  • Team World

    Votes: 6 46.2%

  • Total voters
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Is that really the point you're gonna focus on here?

:usure:

Take him out and replace him with whomever. The bench could be comprised of a number of players, most of which will barely get any playing time. Who do we have that's fukking with that starting lineup?
The All Star game is supposed to be the best players

Not creating a team for formality for some forced contrived USA vs world game
 

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The problem with this is, you're not looking at it from the perspective of next season.

- Tatum won't be there
- Kyrie won't be there
- Bron will be 41 and potentially won't play even if named (and even if he does, it will be in a limited capacity)
- Steph will essentially be 38
- Durant will be 37
- Dame will unlikely be there
- Harden will be 36.

That's 7 of the 18 players right there who either won't be there next season or they won't be moving the needle for a game(s) like that.

You're left with:

Brunson
Brown
Trae
Mitchell
Ant
JJJ
Jdub
Garland
Mobley
Herro
Cade.

Going off this year's roster, does that really look like a group of players that's capable of "blowing out" another team?

Now you look at what Team World could potentially look like:

Shai
Giannis
Wemby
Jokic
Luka
KAT
Sengun
Pascal
Lauri
Franz
OG
Murray
Deni.

They'd have arguably the 5 best players and a bench just as deep. And even if you want to argue we'd have a deeper roster, it doesn't mean a whole lot when the starters would be dictating the outcome of the game. Another important thing to remember here is, Giannis and Wemby would be the two main players who'd treat this with any real seriousness, and they'd be on the opposing squad.

ASG will be in LA and might be his last ever, LeBron is playing

My concern isn’t whether or not the actual game can be competitive, even the Rising Stars team forced a competitive matchup this year

My concern is that deserving American players won’t receive the accolade while less deserving international players get in bc the competition for spots is a lot smaller

The perfect example is Jamal Murray. Been in the NBA almost 10 years, never made the ASG even as a injury replacement and now by going with this format he’s damn near a lock to make it.

Especially when teams have contract incentives tied to this stuff, these things are weighted when it comes time for HOF selections, etc.

If it was just 1 or 2 player difference then whatever. Recent years you’d have 5+ players left off
 

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ASG will be in LA and might be his last ever, LeBron is playing

My concern isn’t whether or not the actual game can be competitive, even the Rising Stars team forced a competitive matchup this year

My concern is that deserving American players won’t receive the accolade while less deserving international players get in bc the competition for spots is a lot smaller

The perfect example is Jamal Murray. Been in the NBA almost 10 years, never made the ASG even as a injury replacement and now by going with this format he’s damn near a lock to make it.

Especially when teams have contract incentives tied to this stuff, these things are weighted when it comes time for HOF selections, etc.
Nah he not playing he old

He stuck around too long

Shoot they will blame him if the USA loses


fukk that it’s time for the new players to take the mantle 35 years of age and up should sit down and just watch
 

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Nah he not playing he old

He stuck around too long

Shoot they will blame him if the USA loses


fukk that it’s time for the new players to take the mantle 35 years of age and up should sit down and just watch

I mean I don’t really care whether LeBron participates or not, but with it being in LA and possibly his final one I’m confident betting on him to play if he’s healthy
 

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Look at what the starting lineups might possibly look like next season and I think you’ll be revising this statement.
Okay if you get rid of the guys you mentioned you have

Brunson
Ant
Brown
Kawhi
AD

Then off the bench you have
Ja
Hali
Mitchell
Booker
Cunningham
Mobley
KAT
Bam
JJJ
Williams

I don't see the internationals putting up a 15 like that.
 

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I mean I don’t really care whether LeBron participates or not, but with it being in LA and possibly his final one I’m confident betting on him to play if he’s healthy
I doubt he plays

And if he don’t it would be a big media thing on why he don’t play


And if he play they gonna say he making it about himself


Wild times :russ:
 
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The All Star game is supposed to be the best players

Not creating a team for formality for some forced contrived international vs world game
Can you confidently say that we'll be putting out the "best players" in next year's ASG more than The World, given the injuries and ages of our best players?

I ask you again - who do we have that's on the same level as that starting lineup? Herro made the ASG this season, and as deserving as anyone could argue he is, there's plenty of international players who'd be just as deserving, so your argument doesn't exactly hold up. Many people think JJJ didn't deserve to make it.
ASG will be in LA and might be his last ever, LeBron is playing

My concern isn’t whether or not the actual game can be competitive

My concern is that deserving American players won’t receive the accolade while less deserving international players get in bc the competition for spots is a lot smaller

The perfect example is Jamal Murray. Been in the NBA almost 10 ten years, never made the ASG even as a injury replacement and now by going with this format he’s damn near a lock to make it.

Especially when teams have contract incentives tied to this stuff, these things are weighted when it comes time for HOF selections, etc.
This sounds plausible in theory, but look at the talent pool in which the All-Stars will be picked from next season.

The best players will be international, and because Tatum and Kyrie won't be there, and potentially Dame, that's three spots that could go to less deserving American players, then you look at players like Steph, KD, Bron, Harden etc who could potentially get in because of name-recognition (not necessarily because they're deserving more than others). You bring up Jamal not making it (and now that he potentially will), are you telling me that somehow he isn't more deserving of a spot than someone like Herro? What has Herro done in his career where he deserves to be recognized as an All-Star over someone who's won a title as a main option and had extensive playoff runs on his resume?

Are we really gonna get hung up on someone like Jamal making the ASG when there'll undoubtedly be players that we'll pick who are in the same convo as him, or even less deserving?
 
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Okay if you get rid of the guys you mentioned you have

Brunson
Ant
Brown
Kawhi
AD

Then off the bench you have
Ja
Hali
Mitchell
Booker
Cunningham
Mobley
KAT
Bam
JJJ
Williams

I don't see the internationals putting up a 15 like that.
My mans, did you really just list Kawhi and AD as starters, when one only played 37 games this season and the other was injured? What makes you think they're going to be in a healthy-enough state next season, especially for something like the ASG?

The World starting 5 is better than anything we can put out there, and the bench is rather meaningless given they won't get many minutes and the contrast in talent isn't that notable.
 

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Brunson mom is Jamaican should he play for the World team

This is the type of foolishness going on to pad the World team

Amen Thompson :dead:
 
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Brunson mom is Jamaican should he play for the World team

This is the type of foolishness going on to pad the World team

Amen Thompson :dead:

Furthermore, why you talking about what The World team would need to pad their team with as if they won't have 5 of the best players? Who gives a fukk about how "deep" our team will be. We putting our trust in Ant and Brunson to beat Giannis, Shai and Wemby?

:usure:
 

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Okay if you get rid of the guys you mentioned you have

Brunson
Ant
Brown
Kawhi
AD

Then off the bench you have
Ja
Hali
Mitchell
Booker
Cunningham
Mobley
KAT
Bam
JJJ
Williams

I don't see the internationals putting up a 15 like that.
You are silly as fucck.

Shai
Luka
Siakum
Giannis
Jokic
Embiid
Giddey
Markannen
OG
Dyson
Gobert
Murray
Wiggins
Mathurin
Porzingas
Schroeder
 

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My mans, did you really just list Kawhi and AD as starters, when one only played 37 games this season and the other was injured? What makes you think they're going to be in a healthy-enough state next season, especially for something like the ASG?

The World starting 5 is better than anything we can put out there, and the bench is rather meaningless given they won't get many minutes and the contrast in talent isn't that notable.
Okay, slide Kawhi and AD off and add Banchero and Sabonis lol
 

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Brotha, Sabonis plays for Lithuania.

:unimpressed:

And if Sabonis is the best big you can come up with, well, you've lost the argument before you've barely begun.
Sabonis is born in America, lived in America for like 80% of his life and played college ball in America but fine, replace Sabonis with Embiid :russ:
 
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