Seems like the all-star game will be USA vs team world edit “take out all the players that’s 35 years old out then you have a good game

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Sabonis is born in America, lived in America for like 80% of his life and played college ball in America but fine, replace Sabonis with Embiid

 

[Peruvian Connect]

Brunson mom is Jamaican should he play for the World team

This is the type of foolishness going on to pad the World team

Amen Thompson

No but Kyrie and Ben Simmons should be on the world team

 

[UpNext]

You got it bruh Sabonis can't get on despite being American and living in America for most his life. Let's let Embiid on because he played for USA

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You got it bruh Sabonis can't get on despite being American and living in America for most his life. Let's let Embiid on because he played for USA

My mans, do you follow the NBA?

Not only will Sabonis not play for the U.S. because he plays internationally for Lithuania, and he's already played for Team World in the Rising Stars challenge, but Embiid will unlikely be even eligible for the All-Star game next season because we don't even know if he'll even be playing hoops. And even if he's healthy enough and playing well enough to be selected, he probably will treat the ASG weekend as a chance to get some rest.

You're scraping the bottom of the barrel even mentioning him.

 

[UpNext]

My mans, do you follow the NBA?

Not only will Sabonis not play for the U.S. because he plays internationally for Lithuania, and he's already played for Team World in the Rising Stars challenge, but Embiid will unlikely be even eligible for the All-Star game next season because we don't even know if he'll even be playing hoops. And even if he's healthy enough and playing well enough to be selected, he probably will treat the ASG weekend as a chance to get some rest.

You're scraping the bottom of the barrel even mentioning him.

Bruh idk what criteria folks are using to arbitrarily decide which Americans play where.


Put Chet on who'll probably take another leap next year and be a bonafide all-star anyway if we're projecting. How you gonna tell me I'm scraping the bottom of the barrell with Sabonis when folks talking about Dyson Daniels, Josh Giddey and Dennis Shroeder for team World and Sabonis is making the team World squad too, easily. In America he need half the squad to be disqualified for some reason to make the cut. Can't use KD, can't use AD, can't use Kawhi, can't use LeBron, can't use Zion, that's a whole starting 5 of can't uses to get to Sabonis

 

[cartierhoe]

Issue with this is how many "World" players would even qualify without reaching just to make them all-stars? And the main crux of it is players don't seem to give a fukk about the game itself anyway, how does changing up the format (again) fix the issue of guys playing with 0 effort?

 

[SchoolboyC]

Can you confidently say that we'll be putting out the "best players" in next year's ASG more than The World, given the injuries and ages of our best players?

I ask you again - who do we have that's on the same level as that starting lineup? Herro made the ASG this season, and as deserving as anyone could argue he is, there's plenty of international players who'd be just as deserving, so your argument doesn't exactly hold up. Many people think JJJ didn't deserve to make it.

This sounds plausible in theory, but look at the talent pool in which the All-Stars will be picked from next season.

The best players will be international, and because Tatum and Kyrie won't be there, and potentially Dame, that's three spots that could go to less deserving American players, then you look at players like Steph, KD, Bron, Harden etc who could potentially get in because of name-recognition (not necessarily because they're deserving more than others). You bring up Jamal not making it (and now that he potentially will), are you telling me that somehow he isn't more deserving of a spot than someone like Herro? What has Herro done in his career where he deserves to be recognized as an All-Star over someone who's won a title as a main option and had extensive playoff runs on his resume?

Are we really gonna get hung up on someone like Jamal making the ASG when there'll undoubtedly be players that we'll pick who are in the same convo as him, or even less deserving?

There’s also other players that will be a factor next year. Tatum, Kyrie & Dame won’t play but you have other guys who didn’t make it like Paolo, Booker & Haliburton to step in and take those spots. That’s the thing with U.S. talent pool, it’s deep enough to sustain. The World side is very very top heavy, especially if injuries start to happen.

Again we’re not talking about one player being left off, we’re talking about basically swapping out an entire bench. It’s not about a personal vendetta against Jamal Murray making the ASG, it’s a point that by changing the format a guy that’s been in the league that long that’s never come close to making it is now seen as someone who will easily walk in to a spot, bc of how much weaker his competition will be.

Assuming the NBA keeps the 4 guard minimum and SGA & Luka as starters, now instead of having to compete with guys like Ant & Booker for slots, all he has to do is outplay Josh Giddey and Dennis Schroder. You really don’t see the insane gap that exists?

 

[Peruvian Connect]

Issue with this is how many "World" players would even qualify without reaching just to make them all-stars? And the main crux of it is players don't seem to give a fukk about the game itself anyway, how does changing up the format (again) fix the issue of guys playing with 0 effort?

Because the narrative is that the world has caught up to America.

They had an all-star game last year with players who weren't all-stars so whats the difference. All star weekend was highlighted by a player who doesn't even play in the NBA.

 

[cartierhoe]

Because the narrative is that the world has caught up to America.

They had an all-star game last year with players who weren't all-stars so whats the difference. All star weekend was highlighted by a player who doesn't even play in the NBA.

And that narrative would be wrong lol

As for your second point, they're changing formats just to change them without addressing the underlying issue

 

[Peruvian Connect]

And that narrative would be wrong lol

As for your second point, they're changing formats just to change them without addressing the underlying issue

How is the narrative wrong? the last 7 MVP's been foreign and Luka ain't even get his yet

 

[cartierhoe]

How is the narrative wrong? the last 7 MVP's been foreign and Luka ain't even get his yet

You named 4 different players from different countries to win MVP, how does that mean the world is "catching" up? We still have the top end talent in abundance. Canada didn't do shyt in the Olympics, Slovenia didn't even qualify.. One player on these teams isn't enough to say the world is "catching" up.

 

[Peruvian Connect]

There’s also other players that will be a factor next year. Tatum, Kyrie & Dame won’t play but you have other guys who didn’t make it like Paolo, Booker & Haliburton to step in and take those spots. That’s the thing with U.S. talent pool, it’s deep enough to sustain. The World side is very very top heavy, especially if injuries start to happen.

Again we’re not talking about one player being left off, we’re talking about basically swapping out an entire bench. It’s not about a personal vendetta against Jamal Murray making the ASG, it’s a point that by changing the format a guy that’s been in the league that long that’s never come close to making it is now seen as someone who will easily walk in to a spot, bc of how much weaker his competition will be.

Assuming the NBA keeps the 4 guard minimum and SGA & Luka as starters, now instead of having to compete with guys like Ant & Booker for slots, all he has to do is outplay Josh Giddey and Dennis Schroder. You really don’t see the insane gap that exists?

You acting like Devin Booker is that much better than Murray, Trash ass Draymond Green has played in multiple all-star games, but you got an issue with Murray and Giddey getting a spot?

 

[Peruvian Connect]

You named 4 different players from different countries to win MVP, how does that mean the world is "catching" up? We still have the top end talent in abundance.

Not really. The best American players are over 35 years old. The top 6/7 players in the NBA are international. You don't know if the best American player is 23 or 41. American basketball is failing

 

[TheEgyptianConniption]

World is crazy

Jokic
Giannis
Siakum
Luka
Shai

Wemby
Embiid
Markaneen
Giddey
OG
Schroeder
Murray
Porzingas

Did you just put Schroeder in the ASG?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Bruh idk what criteria folks are using to arbitrarily decide which Americans play where.


Put Chet on who'll probably take another leap next year and be a bonafide all-star anyway if we're projecting. How you gonna tell me I'm scraping the bottom of the barrell with Sabonis when folks talking about Dyson Daniels and Dennis Shroeder for team World and Sabonis is making the team World squad too, easily. In America he need half the squad to be retired or disqualified for some reason to make the cut

These are not arbitrary standards.

The fact that you didn't know Sabonis plays for Lithuania on the international stage and has played for Team World during the ASG weekend speaks volumes. You then proceeded to bring up all these injured* players as if they'll even be there next season in that capacity only further emphasizes my point about you not really following the NBA like that.

There’s also other players that will be a factor next year. Tatum, Kyrie & Dame won’t play but you have other guys who didn’t make it like Paolo, Booker & Haliburton to step in and take those spots. That’s the thing with U.S. talent pool, it’s deep enough to sustain. The World side is very very top heavy, especially if injuries start to happen.

Yes, our talent pool is certainly deeper, but the core of the issue would remain even without this format, where players are controversially named because folks don't think they're deserving enough.

And as great as Paolo, Devin and Haliburton are, to what benefit would they really be (the latter two, more specifically) in an ASG when there's Ant and Brunson too? It's the same dilemna we have with Team USA, where we have these great players who play the same positions and who aren't Tier-1 stars.

Again we’re not talking about one player being left off, we’re talking about basically swapping out an entire bench. It’s not about a personal vendetta against Jamal Murray making the ASG, it’s a point that by changing the format a guy that’s been in the league that long that’s never come close to making it is now seen as someone who will easily walk in to a spot, bc of how much weaker his competition will be.

But can't that same logic also be applied to the U.S.?

If you remove Shai, Giannis, Wemby, Jokic, Luka, Pascal, Sengun, Amen*, etc from our All-Star pool, then you're essentially picking a squad of players who otherwise wouldn't be there. And you can take it a step further - if a combination of Bron, Steph, KD, Harden etc won't be picked, won't that even weaken the talent pool that we the U.S. will choose from, even more?

I know you didn't bring about Jamal as a "personal vendetta" thing, but they've been countless of American players who've been voted as All-Stars in recent seasons who haven't deserved to be recognized as one over him. Julius Randle is a 3x All-Star and you're really getting hung up on someone like Jamal going from someone who didn't come close to making one to now making potentially making it.

At this stage, we're none-the-wiser as to if all these players involved will be counted as All-Stars, or the All-Stars will be voted as normal, and then there'll be additional players added to the actual game (who won't be counted as All-Stars), so until we know exactly how voting will be adjudicated, it's pointless trying to contest a point about who is going to be deserving or not in a contractive capacity and an accolades one.