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What happened to the booker mafia, I could have swore the presidency was on lock 
according to his stans on politico and the hill
according to his stans on politico and the hill
Sen. Gillibrand vs Sen. Warren
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What happened to the booker mafia, I could have swore the presidency was on lock
according to his stans on politico and the hill
He had a real bad interview a few years back where Obama sent him out as a spokesman and he tried to shyt on Obama to make himself look like the "real" uniter who could bring Republicans and Dems together.
Pure backstabber fukkery.That was the end of his chapter. The disrespect Obama got as President
And every one of those fools (including Harry Reid) didn't accomplish anything but their own demise.Man, we cannot have an actor in there....it would be better than now, but we need someone with more world vision and resolve, a person of real character who hasn't been making movies and living in the Hills for 30 years. Of all the people named, I'd love to see Kamala Harris win, but I honestly want the best candidate to WIN, and I think it will be hard to elect a black woman, given that the US sexism is second only to it's racism.
The way to win isn't going further to the right, you will never get the real, hard line Trump supporters, ever. It's about race and personality, not policy. And you will never get the "tax" Republicans, ever, because they would have already been for Hillary if they weren't morally deprived people. They will never not vote GOP.
You win by engaging voters who were on the bench in 2016, and going further left to do so. If they play it safe, they will be in trouble.
The way to win isn't going further to the right, you will never get the real, hard line Trump supporters, ever. It's about race and personality, not policy. And you will never get the "tax" Republicans, ever, because they would have already been for Hillary if they weren't morally deprived people. They will never not vote GOP.
You win by engaging voters who were on the bench in 2016, and going further left to do so. If they play it safe, they will be in trouble.
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NYSTATEOFMIND
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Bingo...she talks a good game but where is she on the single payer plan? Did she stand up to Trump 700 billion dollar military budget..nah...I aint checking for Elizabeth Warren
I dont know much about Gillibrand other than she was a blue Dog Democrat which is basically a republican to me...or a centrist so Hilary Cliton 2.0..no thanks
NYSTATEOFMIND
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Good post and I agree that the way to win is moving further left. Where I dont agree is (maybe I am misreading your post) that I dont see Kamala Harris as a leftist candidate ...she seems like another centrist democrat. But you are dead on with the way to win is getting people who didnt give a damn about voting in 2016 to vote in 2020. Hillary effed up by trying to flip republicans support in places like the Philly suburbs. Also get back the people to voted for Obama and then voted for Trump (there was alot of that) As long as the democratic party has superdelegates- I dont see how we will get a TRUE leftist President
I like a lot about Kamala, and I'd love to see her as President, and she is more of a centrist Dem, sure, I am not convinced she could win, nor that she is the best positioned to run and win. We essentially need a Democrat under ANY circumstances who can begin to undo some of the wreckage and pain that has already been inflicted on too many. Important to remember, that people are being stripped of services and tools, and while some of our lives may be relatively uninterrupted, many are hurting, or going to be really hurting.
the next guy
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Listen, unless you think warren wants it or Kamala can explain her white husband, she is probably it. If no one comes together, the candidate will be Cuomo, and he can win but there are scandals waiting to happen once he actually becomes president.
i will vote for whoever our eventual nominee is.
but still fukk her.
i feel like theres other talent out there
I like Brown
I like Schiff
I like both Castro Brothers
etc etc
tbh
i would say run a woman as vp, not p
and im a woman.
Jhoon
Spontaneous Mishaps and Hijinks
How?
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
I hope everyone runs. Bernie, Warren, Gilly, Booker, Kamala, Hillary, The Rock, Oprah.
fukk it
Bernie - he's old other than that he curbs Trump easy
Biden - same issue as Bernie
Warren - showed her ass during the DAPL situation and completely exposed herself during the primaries
Gilly - I mean.... I dunno who she is really
Booker - Ever since that Big Pharma fiasco, I haven't heard of him recovering
Kamala - Ever since that "being funded by Republican agents" fiasco, I haven't heard of her recovering
The Rock - They voted for Trump so
why notOprah - She just sold the majority of her company to Discovery, so
Jhoon
Spontaneous Mishaps and Hijinks
Hilary was believed to be the devil by her political opponent. However, Hilary thought she could win over those folks. She was a terrible politician. Gilibrand isn’t nearly as polarizing as Hilary.Bingo...she talks a good game but where is she on the single payer plan? Did she stand up to Trump 700 billion dollar military budget..nah...I aint checking for Elizabeth Warren
I dont know much about Gillibrand other than she was a blue Dog Democrat which is basically a republican to me...or a centrist so Hilary Cliton 2.0..no thanks
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people are still upset about al franken. still.
Jhoon
Spontaneous Mishaps and Hijinks
His replacement was sworn in today. The election is more than 2 years away.
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
I'm not sure what Gillibrand has to do with that. That was all on Franken. Wasn't the CBC the ones to
Franken because the Dems were telling Conyers to go but said nothing to Franken?This woman seems to be a nobody. Why would anyone consider her for Prez?
If I had a fantasy pick, it would be Nina Turner. She's more thorough and/or qualified than 99% of the names listed. But she seems to keep it too real for the mainstream to embrace her.
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