Serious Question: How do we grade Drake as an MC now?

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This discussion is pointless on the Coli for a couple reasons.

Coli brehs can't process that somebody who has had co written songs also writes. To the Coli Drake and Kanye never wrote anything in their lives despite them having credits writing songs for others.

The extent to which Drake writes his straight rap is speculation depending on what you believe or want to believe.

Drake is in the same place as a writer to me pretty much. A tier below someon like Kendrick but still a better artist / writer than most of rap.
 

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This discussion is pointless on the Coli for a couple reasons.

Coli brehs can't process that somebody who has had co written songs also writes. To the Coli Drake and Kanye never wrote anything in their lives despite them having credits writing songs for others.

The extent to which Drake writes his straight rap is speculation depending on what you believe or want to believe.

Drake is in the same place as a writer to me pretty much. A tier below someon like Kendrick but still a better artist / writer than most of rap.

What writing credit does Drake and Kanye have for others. Post with credible sources.
 

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I'm not going to be naive enough to think Drake doesn't write anything so I gotta be fair

Fact of the matter is we don't know how much he wrote.

He never came out and said "ok I didn't write "if you're reading this" but TML is all me". That's the least he could do to retain some sort of credibility. Since not, his whole catologue is possibly someone else's.

I took away his credit off the fact that he didn't even write his features dating back to SFG. Your credibility hits an all time low when you have ghost writers for features. Especially at the start of his career.

Now, any "good" verse that would raise the grade could be called in the question. Same with any bad verse and Drake has plenty.

The fact that there it's not clear what he and didn't do and the lines get blurier should be enough to give him a failing grade.

F off principle alone.
 

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What writing credit does Drake and Kanye have for others. Post with credible sources.

Kanye
Recent one


Kanye wrote Find Your Love for Drake.

Kanye confirm Drake helped write 30 hours and that was obvious from the style before he even confirmed that

Theres a few for Drake but in terms of hits

6 Songs You Didn't Know Drake Wrote

I'm fine with people playing down them as pure MCs but as artists these guys are talented and aren't just having things handed them on a plate without their input
 

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Fact of the matter is we don't know how much he wrote.

He never came out and said "ok I didn't write "if you're reading this" but TML is all me". That's the least he could do to retain some sort of credibility. Since not, his whole catologue is possibly someone else's.

I took away his credit off the fact that he didn't even write his features dating back to SFG. Your credibility hits an all time low when you have ghost writers for features. Especially at the start of his career.

Now, any "good" verse that would raise the grade could be called in the question. Same with any bad verse and Drake has plenty.

The fact that there it's not clear what he and didn't do and the lines get blurier should be enough to give him a failing grade.

F off principle alone.
I respect that
 

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Fact of the matter is we don't know how much he wrote.

He never came out and said "ok I didn't write "if you're reading this" but TML is all me". That's the least he could do to retain some sort of credibility. Since not, his whole catologue is possibly someone else's.

I took away his credit off the fact that he didn't even write his features dating back to SFG. Your credibility hits an all time low when you have ghost writers for features. Especially at the start of his career.

Now, any "good" verse that would raise the grade could be called in the question. Same with any bad verse and Drake has plenty.

The fact that there it's not clear what he and didn't do and the lines get blurier should be enough to give him a failing grade.

F off principle alone.


This is my overall issue because he's clearly putting together a historic career
 
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