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I never said it was suppose to be easy, all I'm saying is that many Christians talk about it changing your life, and all it did for me at 12-13 years old is make me unhappy. It gave me so much depression over my sexuality and being attracted to women. It made me spend many nights crying at nights because I committed a sexual sin. It got so bad I remember going to a restaurant and seeing an attractive woman and I felt so much guilt about finding her sexually attractive that I stopped looking at her and down at my plate. This was how much guilt I felt. Now you can say that came from the devil, but the devil isn't the one who said in Mathew 5:22( I think don't quote me) that if you look at a woman with lust you've already committed adultery. All these sexual guidelines fukked me up around 12-14, and made me feeling really unhappy, guilty and bitter. I'm 27 and struggled with women my whole life, partly because of my own issues around sex. Majority of my issues with sex came with my involvement with Christianity. I'm 27 and never really had a true relationship or ever been comfortable with sex or my sexuality. You can talk about the devil this and devil that, but the threat of hell fire is what caused me to feel the way I felt and motivated me to try and abstain from whatever. I came to Christianity out of fear of eternal punishment not because I was missing something.

You think your the only one who has felt like that? I have done that exact same thing numerous times, i have cried at nigh because i committed sexual sin, THE EXACT same thing you have said numerous times. I have walked around and looked at women and been sexually attracted and then felt so guilty about it that i wanted to cry and then never preyed for days because i was ashamed to even try act like a christian agin after what i had done, then i read the word and learned the truth of his word, the fact that you like that and you try and it pains you is because you are a child of God and you know it is not what you should be doing but you do not cry like a pitiful defeatist, it is the devil that wants you to react like that, it is those times where you recognise you are under attack and you call on God. In times of temptations and struggle you call on God to strengthen you and he will

Roams 7 verse 15, 'For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate' This struggle is well spoken about in the bible. You must understand that your feelings of remorse and guilt are from the holy spirit that dwells in you, it means that God is with you. All you must do is repent and that very instant when you ask for forgiveness in guilt and remorse God has forgiven you, his mercy is unlimited and he will always forgive you and if you understand that then you will realise you no longer have anything to feel guilty about, it is all forgotten. Crying and beating yourself up and dwelling on the sin you have done is from the DEVIL, it is his tactic to break your spirit and your resolve, to make you feel you are worthless and are headed to hell and you will never change. You are not going to become a saint overnight, you will stumble and you will fall, but the test of if God is with you is how you react, the initial guilt is confirmation that God and the holy spirit is still with you and is convicted you and warning you that this temptation and this sin is an attack from the nemy. Recognise that and acknowledge it, acknowledge the fact that he is still with you and repent and ask him to strengthen you, it is these times that you turn to him. When you have fallen and stumbled. Dont fall into the trap of the devil to cry and beat yourself up and act like you are defeated, Jesus Christ died for your sins, he knew you were going to commit that sin and he still died for it, the war against sin and the flesh is the war your fighting, he just wants you to continue to fight it, to not give up, to look for him and seek him in those times and BELIEVE that he died for that sin already and he loves you and has forgiven you if you ask.

DO NOT give up and abandon him in order to free yourself from the guilt because i tell you now the moment you feel like that is the moment that you have lost, the moment you can commit sin and feel nothing, no remorse, no guilt, no pain whatsoever that is when you have lost because that means the holy spirit is no longer with you, God is no longer with you convicting you. The bible says you must pick up your cross and walk every day and crucify your flesh, Christ walk with the cross wasn't easy and his Crucifixion wasn't easy, it was painful. So what do you imagine your experience of picking up your cross and crucifying your flesh will feel like. It is a war my friend, Jesus loves you and has forgiven you and has died for every single you will commit already, they are all already nailed to the cross. You just have to make that painful walk with your cross, seek him for strength, do not give up and cry and be a defeatist but realise that sin and the desire to sin is an attack from the enemy that will come and the bible says it will come and fight it. Faith and perseverance and you will be victorious over Satan and you will defeat the power of sin. Read the word everyday to build your strength and your faith. Fight the good fight of faith my friend, ive been there and i still am.
 

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Smh this is so confusing and frustrating. So I struggled because I was looking for happiness in Jesus instead of God. Isn't a relationship with Jesus the only way to the father. He's the son of God whom I must believe and confess as my lord and savior. If it was just about God, then I could go the path of Judiasm, Islam or whatever. I went that path of Christianity because in order to enter heaven I must have a relationship with Jesus. Without Jesus, God won't even see me.

Jesus is an excellent and great man but he is not an intercessor of some sorts. You should hold him in high regards but remember he is not divine.

Understand that Jesus did perform miracles. But. But with what?

The permission of God.

One time when Jesus tried to heal a blind man, the man was not healed after the first attempt, and Jesus had to try a second time (Mark 8:22-26).

You get it? He was a great man who was sent as a prophet/messenger of God

‘I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent me.’ (John 5:30)

When you say Son. It is not literal. Here are some examples from the bible. It's a common mistake.

Adam: ‘Adam, which was the son of God.’ (Luke 3:38)

Jacob is God’s son and firstborn: ‘Israel is my son, even my firstborn.’ (Exodus 4:22)



Jesus (nor anything) is not needed for a man to connect with God.
 

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So God put a desire in us, just to see if we have the discipline to abstain from it. Why give the desire at all then. A test? So now I'm a Guinea pig....smh.

When we have a desire... We long to get it. What happens when when we do?

We get enjoyment.

We have been given a desire that can be fulfilled. But in what?

The right way.
 

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When we have a desire... We long to get it. What happens when when we do?

We get enjoyment.

We have been given a desire that can be fulfilled. But in what?

The right way.

Ok man i hear you. I guess i just have to resign myself to marriage, or suffer eternal consequences.
 

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Thank you for all the serious replies. You've all given me a lot to think about.

....peace
 

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Jesus is an excellent and great man but he is not an intercessor of some sorts. You should hold him in high regards but remember he is not divine.

Understand that Jesus did perform miracles. But. But with what?

The permission of God.

One time when Jesus tried to heal a blind man, the man was not healed after the first attempt, and Jesus had to try a second time (Mark 8:22-26).

You get it? He was a great man who was sent as a prophet/messenger of God

‘I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent me.’ (John 5:30)

When you say Son. It is not literal. Here are some examples from the bible. It's a common mistake.

Adam: ‘Adam, which was the son of God.’ (Luke 3:38)

Jacob is God’s son and firstborn: ‘Israel is my son, even my firstborn.’ (Exodus 4:22)



Jesus (nor anything) is not needed for a man to connect with God.

You cherry pick the right bible verses for you point and then say Jesus is not needed for man to connect with God, but why are you ignoring the bible verses that say that exact thing?

John 14:6-12,

'Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake'

1 Timothy 2:5
'5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus'

John 10:9

9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
 

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Ok man i hear you. I guess i just have to resign myself to marriage, or suffer eternal consequences.


Yup no problem. To be more upbeat/motivated you need to think how short this life is. Realistically, 60 70 not even 80 years for most.

Now think this life vs. eternity

Anyways breh peace if u out


You don't have to but I suggest you check it out. Give it a skim.
Islam Guide: What Is Islam?
Basics of Islam. Easy to understand.
you might be shocked lol
 

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You cherry pick the right bible verses for you point and then say Jesus is not needed for man to connect with God, but why are you ignoring the bible verses that say that exact thing?

John 14:6-12,

'Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake'

1 Timothy 2:5
'5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus'

John 10:9

9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

Well. You just pointed out the main contradiction in the bible.

One is true. One is tampering.

Given the evidences. What do you think?
 

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Well. You just pointed out the main contradiction in the bible.

One is true. One is tampering.

Given the evidences. What do you think?

There is no contradiction, you see a contradiction because you have interpreted verses in a certain way. Show something you perceive to be a contradiction and i will give you an explanation.
 

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Why do so called Christians celebrate pagan holidays?

can somebody please answer this for me

Because most Christians today underestimate the bibles warnings when it tells us to be vigilant of the vile's of the devil and our enemy's main weapon is deception. The dont pay too much attention when it says there shall be much deception in the church of God. No where in the bible does it instruct, endorse or encourage any of those holidays but yet they still do it. The bible said all the Gods that all those other nations worship and sacrificed to were just demons in disguise, so Christians have been tricked into honouring the devil and demons. Christians decide to celebrate Christs birthday on a pagan holiday when no where in the bible does give a date for Christs birthday, and they do not think to ask themselves if God wanted or needed us to celebrate the birthday of Christ, wouldn't he have given us the date? Deviating even a little from the word is doing nothing but giving Satan opportunity to work.
 
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Because most Christians today underestimate the bibles warnings when it tells us to be vigilant of the vile's of the devil and our enemy's main weapon is deception. The dont pay too much attention when it says there shall be much deception in the church of God. No where in the bible does it instruct, endorse or encourage any of those holidays but yet they still do it. The bible said all the Gods that all those other nations worship and sacrificed to were just demons in disguise, so Christians have been tricked into honouring the devil and demons. Christians decide to celebrate Christs birthday on a pagan holiday when no where in the bible does give a date for Christs birthday, and they do not think to ask themselves if God wanted or needed us to celebrate the birthday of Christ, wouldn't he have given us the date? Deviating even a little from the word is doing nothing but giving Satan opportunity to work.

Right.
Doesnt Dec 25 fall during the time that Saturnalia was going on in Rome?
Thats where they got the presents, Xmas tree, yule log, etc from

So are Christians mentally ill or what? Dont they know these things? Or are they willfully defiant?
 

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All of Christianity teaches hell and brimstone for non believers.

Nope. "Hell" is not a place of fire, brimstone, and torment.
It's just The Grave. So everybody goes there.

If you ever go to a cemetery and stand in any open grave, then you've experienced "hell".

All that other mess about the fire and stuff was added in the later centuries by people who wrote plays.


All of Christianity teaches Sexual repression which REALLY has fukked me up in my life and when I was younger. Like seriously why must I get married to have sex, what if marriage isn't for me? I'll answer that, it isn't . I don't want the responsibility raising a family. That shyt is stressful, I've seen it first hand with my father(even though I'm thankful he and my mom had me). I just wanna get laid and be stress free.

Getting laid won't make you "stress free". At all. LOL

I was responsible all through highschool and college. I want independence and good times, not stress and paying college tuition bills. But hey I guess that's sinful in the eyes of God smh.

"Independence" is a smokescreen. Everybody needs somebody sometimes.

"Happiness" comes from finding where you belong and getting in where you fit in.
 

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This is a non trolling question. Many people who say they give their life to Christ and start a relationship with him and experience such peace and happiness. I don't doubt their sincerity, but all I can say is I got involved in Christianity and/or religion in 2001. I was 11 years old(26 now), So from 11-13 I tried to follow this faith and all I felt was unhappiness, fear and guilt. What's your guys explanation? Anyone else experience those feelings following a specific faith? Not bashing Christianity, just being honest, it never gave me what many of you say you have. Maybe it was just me I guess:francis: (Sidenote: I'm not saying I'm happy now. I wasnt happy trying to follow Christianity, and I'm not happy now. I guess I need to sit down and figure out why that truly is and fix it)

Jesus promised persecution not peace and trails and the sword not smiles do you nikkas read the bible or just skim through it?
 

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Right.
Doesnt Dec 25 fall during the time that Saturnalia was going on in Rome?
Thats where they got the presents, Xmas tree, yule log, etc from

So are Christians mentally ill or what? Dont they know these things? Or are they willfully defiant?

The overwhelming majority of "Christians" are not taught these things,
so the only way to know these things is to (*gasp*) do a little research on their own...

...but they're told that all they need to know they are being taught...by the people who
aren't teaching them. Yeah.

A dude I know was talmbat this very matter to somebody who he knows goes to seminary school.
He said that he knows about all of that, but if you teach anything like that then the Christian Conference
won't give you a church permit. So do with that info what you will...
 
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