Seriously, how did Melo age so badly?

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He's not in shape and when you get up there in age your entire game falls apart. Remember this a young mans game and melo hasn't cared about staying in shape for the last 3 years.
Nah. Melo has cared about getting in shape more in the last three years.

Where, Melo fukked up was not taking care of his body when he was young.

Melo as a rookie had lean arms that could pack muscle fiber and was a good athlete (elite first step, quick second leap, good bounce). By 2009, he had got a little chubby for professional basketball player standards. He never achieved his peak physique and has been playing catch-up trying to stay lean later in his career.

Melo is also like this because of knee and shoulder injuries and age. He is 33 and 15 years in+a lot of Olympic experience and an NCAA title. He had a lot of wear and tear on his body, he was routintely a 65 games a season guy because of injuries. Also, the analytics exposed the midrange jump shot as the most inefficient shot in basketball and that was Melo's bread and butter. Oklahoma City has tried to reinvent him as a stretch 4, problem is Melo has those bad habits and is more of a volume shooter than knock down. Carmelo doesn't have the lift or first step anymore he hasn't been shyt around the rim for YEARS.
 
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Young Melo was a dunker, his dunk totals dropped dramatically as his career progressed from his first few years in the league y'all can search it up on B-R. He used to pretty much try to dunk anything around the basket but as he got older he didn't maximize his athletic ability ...
 
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There should be a list of all 94 fools who said that Carmelo was better than Draymond. :dead:

Another 45 said that Wiggins was better than Draymond. :heh:

43 said that Paul Millsap was better than Draymond. :jbhmm:

44 (a majority cause most people had quit the stupid polls) said that Avery Bradley was better than Dray. :skip:

29 said that Jabari Parker was better than Draymond. :dead:

77 said that Kevin Love was better than Draymond. :shaq2:

And 56 had IT ahead of Draymond. :russ:


Those 30-odd polls gotta have been the worst continuous waste of stickied board space in Coli history. Only thing they good for is exposing the casuals who cast some of those votes. :lolbron:
Dray is a difficult player to rank. He is a high impact, team/system guy, elite defender, great passer, intangibles.

I have a hard time saying he is a more talented basketball player than Jabari Parker though to be honest. :francis:
 

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Young Melo was a dunker, his dunk totals dropped dramatically as his career progressed from his first few years in the league y'all can search it up on B-R. He used to pretty much try to dunk anything around the basket but as he got older he didn't maximize his athletic ability ...


Young Melo was a joy to watch :wow:


Shame he's been :flabbynsick: for so long people have forgotten what he was like in his prime.:mjcry:
 

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Dray is a difficult player to rank. He is a high impact, team/system guy, elite defender, great passer, intangibles.

I have a hard time saying he is a more talented basketball player than Jabari Parker though to be honest. :francis:

I agree that Dray isn't easy to rank, which is one of several reasons the whole poll series was pure stupidity in the first place. But I can't imagine many contenders who would have taken Jabari over Dray in 2017.

The question wasn't talent. The question was who was the better player in 2017.
 

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You're on point there.

Think about this - from 2000-2007, Mike Bibby and Ray Allen were both peaking.

Around the end of that period both of them had some injuries hit, but Bibby completely fell off while Ray Allen was pumping out all-star appearances all the way until 2011.

Bibby was borderline useless by 2010 and retired by 2012. Ray was a vital part of a title team in 2013 and retired in 2014.

Ray was three years older than Bibby this whole time...which means he retired at 38 while Bibby retired at 33, and Ray looked better his last year too.

Was anyone going to predict that solely off of their games in 2000?
Ray basically had the same body his whole career.

In Bibby's last years his tendency to brick open jumpers was :scust:, he looked out of shape compared to Vancouver/Sacramento days he had to be playing at over 10% body fat which basketball players should stay away from. Now, Bibby retired coaching with a gut. :russ:

Shout out to him for making this though
 

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Lol, dude was just a all-star last year. Yall was crying for him to take a backseat, which he's done, and yall still complaining, lol. Did yall really expect him, Russ & PG to average over 25ppg
 

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he should have pattern his late career game after NY Knicks Larry Johnson. LJ lost all his explosion after the back injury so he developed all those moves around the basket.

wasnt all these moves and countermoves and post repertoire suppose to be Melo's wheelhouse
 

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Melo is 15 years in so this is pretty normal. He doesn't have the quickness to get to the basket much anymore so he really has that "retired NBA star playing in the celebrity game" style of play. If you isolate shooting, that part of his game is still strong.
 
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