Shaq: I Agree With What T-Mac Said. Probably Get A Lot Of Flak, But I Always Said Myself, I , I Think I Could've Got 3 In A Row With T-Mac.

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These dumb cult ass retards are in a thread PROUDLY bragging about Ruben fukking Patterson being their lord and saviors “stopper” while trying to convince us that nobody but Kobe Christ could have won with Shaq :mjlol:


The fact that they don't even comprehend the irony in that or how this in itself shyts on Kobe and his competition level is comedic gold :lolbron::lolbron::lolbron:


The most delusional and incompetent stanbase in sports history by far
You're an idiot. Ruben Patterson didnt actually shut down kobe, HE just thought he was capable.
 

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T-Mac was out of his prime in Houston. Even at the jump. He was still all star good but he wasn't elite anymore. Orlando T-Mac prime was short but he was unstoppable. I watched those games. He would carry Orlando nightly. His last year, Orlando gave him a straight up G league team

He joined the Rockets in 2004 when he was 25 years old.
 

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Tmac is a great player but its hard to believe he would have done what Kobe did in some of the West series especially in some individual games. I cant imagine him having those games vs Blazers, Kings, etc. Those other guards also weren't elite defenders like Kobe was. These arguments only focus on one round but not the first 3
What were the great perimeter players in the west the lakers faced from 2000-2002
 

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Some of ya'll just wasn't watching much ball back then but got strong and bad opinions

Nah you just saw his 32 ppg and what would be ball is life highlights today and thought he just as as good as Kobe. 16 years in the league and couldnt make one All defense team?
:scust:

It was awhile ago so I understand the memory being fuzzy, but TMac was the Bron of that time when it came to having a weak mentality. Compare that Kobe vid to TMac the game before he lost to the Hornets in the 02 playoffs:

"He's not the best player (in this series)," said McGrady, who is averaging 29.3 points, seven rebounds and 5.3 assists in the three games. "I am. No question, no question."



Davis is averaging 24 points, nine assists and 8.3 rebounds, but McGrady said that Davis' teammates are making him look better.



"If you look at Baron's team, and you look at my team, then you'll understand he has a lot of help," McGrady said. "He has guys that can score, he has guys that can rebound on a night-to-night basis.



"Therefore, all the focus, all the attention (from Orlando) is not on him."
Pointing to his teammates as the reason he's not successful sounds like who today? :mjpls:

Bad Back Mac's view on practice:

“That could be it,’’ McGrady said. “I just think I could cruise through practice and still be effective. Some guys have to really go (all) out to really have an impact on practice. My ability was just I had God-given talent to where I could just cruise through practice and still be an effective practice player… I was inconsistent.

So swap an elite defensive player that practiced hard(Kobe) with a lazy defensive/practice player who made excuses when he lost and you get the same result? And that's adding him to another lazy defensive/practice player who got jealous when his teammates got shine (Shaq)? Just because you watched back then doesn't mean you understood what you were watching
:usure::hubie:
 

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Nah you just saw his 32 ppg and what would be ball is life highlights today and thought he just as as good as Kobe. 16 years in the league and couldnt make one All defense team?
:scust:

It was awhile ago so I understand the memory being fuzzy, but TMac was the Bron of that time when it came to having a weak mentality. Compare that Kobe vid to TMac the game before he lost to the Hornets in the 02 playoffs:


Pointing to his teammates as the reason he's not successful sounds like who today? :mjpls:

Bad Back Mac's view on practice:



So swap an elite defensive player that practiced hard(Kobe) with a lazy defensive/practice player who made excuses when he lost and you get the same result? And that's adding him to another lazy defensive/practice player who got jealous when his teammates got shine (Shaq)? Just because you watched back then doesn't mean you understood what you were watching
:usure::hubie:

Saying Mac could have gotten a ring playing with Shaq or Duncan for that matter is one thing, that's a reasonable take.

But duplicating the results you got with Kobe? fukk no. Same thing with Steph, 6 rings where nikka? Who tf is taking up the slack on defense for if you swap him out for Kobe on those championship teams?

And this is crazy because I loved watching T-mac play and before Kobe ascended, I was one of the people that would say he's right there.

If Kobe was the new MJ, T-mac was his Clyde Drexler, the next closest thing but still quite a bit of a gap.
 

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Is that what happened
What happened was Kobe made all defense 12 times while winning 5 rings and you have stat box watchers thinking that a 0 time All defensive team player who was admittedly lazy when it came to preparation could be swapped in and achieve the same results because he averaged 32 ppg and had nice ball is life highlights
:mjlol:

Even with Yao, he couldnt get out the first round yet they get Ron Artest, Bad back Mac gets hurt (what else was new) and Artest and Yao somehow go to the second round team with the exact same team they had as when Mac was leading them. On the court he was a loser. Perfect comparison:
On top of that it wasn’t exactly like Tracy was going super nova out there. He was putting up Stackhouse numbers

This is the perfect comparison. A rich man's Jerry Stackhouse.
 

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Saying Mac could have gotten a ring playing with Shaq or Duncan for that matter is one thing, that's a reasonable take.

I don't even think that's reasonable unless we're just going by stats we see on a piece of paper. Putting 2 lazy defensive/practice players together doesn'scream automatic championship to me. Especially since Shaq got jealous when Penny got some shine, and later when Kobe got some shine...
But duplicating the results you got with Kobe? fukk no. Same thing with Steph, 6 rings where nikka? Who tf is taking up the slack on defense for if you swap him out for Kobe on those championship teams?

And this is crazy because I loved watching T-mac play and before Kobe ascended, I was one of the people that would say he's right there.

If Kobe was the new MJ, T-mac was his Clyde Drexler, the next closest thing but still quite a bit of a gap.

It would be a reach to even call him Drexler since he actually led a team past the first round and all the way to the finals. Mac was more like the Mitch Richmond to Kobe's MJ
 

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What happened was Kobe made all defense 12 times
Nobody cares about Kobe’s fraudulent defensive numbers. There’s a reason you hoes bring up his defensive selections because you know his actual raw offensive numbers aren’t anything to right home about

Let’s let Teague tell you hoes the truth





Kobe has a career defensive rating of 105. Tmac had a career defensive rating of 103.8.



Acting like Tmac was Duncan Robinson out there :mjlol:

Now. Address Kobe quitting on his team and crying for a trade or shut the fukk up. :umad:
 
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