Silver addressing the lack of x’s & o’s talk in NBA coverage

[Rekkapryde]

Once TNT's Inside The NBA starting winning Emmy's and awards for basically talking sh*t and talking bad on current players it was a wrap for trying to get in-depth commentary and analysis from these broadcast teams. SAS getting on air mad about having to go to a certain cities because their nightlife ain't poppin. Its their own doing

Copycatting and sucking at it are the worst

 

[Piff Perkins]

You could argue all the terrible sports discourse that exists today can be traced back to NBA coverage. It’s nonstop generalizations and bullshyt from people who clearly do not enjoy watching NBA basketball. And I’m including TNT in this, tired of how people defend those bums.

 

[Gritsngravy]

Is it ESPNS job to sell the NBA or just the games they are airing on their network? The NFL is actually still exiting,drama filled,passionate fanbases. The NFL is what the NBA used to be,where the matchups and the game sold itself. Where cities rallied behind teams, because they knew the player was interested in building something in the city they were drafted in. Where entire cities hated a player,and a player hated their city. Where entire cities hated other cities,due to rivalries. Where players and teams took on the culture of the city,in how their team looked,acted and played. This is the essence of basketball not a X and O.

If I had to give the most credit to who killing this game,the players are at the top of the list.

You just wrote a whole bunch of bullshyt

 

[Still Benefited]

You just wrote a whole bunch of bullshyt

Okay,so who were the guys being watched for in depth x and os coverage before and after games at peak nba? Or do you think newspapers contained peak x and os commentary. Rather than drama and bulleteinboard material type stuff they do today. Aint nothing change,they just put newspaper guys and radio host on t.v


Far as everything else,I was there,you might be a little too short in the tooth to remember.

 

[Gritsngravy]

@Still Benefited
basketball is a marathon not a sprint,
Y’all be trying to make the nba the nfl when really the nba is mlb
82 vs 17 or 82 vs 162

 

[Gritsngravy]

Okay,so who were the guys being watched for in depth x and os coverage before and after games at peak nba? Or do you think newspapers contained peak x and os commentary. Rather than drama and bulleteinboard material type stuff they do today. Aint nothing change,they just put newspaper guys and radio host on t.v


Far as everything else,I was there,you might be a little too short in the tooth to remember.

You comparing nba and nfl
And Lowkey u on some pro owner shyt saying it’s the players fault

These garbage ass owners in every sport needs to be called out

 

[UpAndComing]

hubie the last of a dying breed

This is also why I like Stan Van Gundy on the broadcast. I think NBA TV/TNT does a slightly better job having color commentators analyzing the game

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

Why is JJ Redikk pretending like he doesn't participate in all the "GOAT" bullshyt discussions? He's always talkin about that bullshyt or dumb shyt like "In my era..." or "in this era..."

Shut the fukk up and talk X's and O's yourself cac.

JJ loves talking X and O stuff

He doesn’t really get the opportunity on his ESPN spots …they are trying to drive engagement

 

[Damnshow]

You mean to tell me a multi billion dollar organization can't hire some people who can break down games? Give me a break.

Silver created the product he's criticizing now. All those goofy "both teams played hard" analysts were hired to dumb down basketball for casual audience.


ESPN is the worst product. You might as well ask family cooking shows to talk about basketball.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Not only that, their overall production needs work.

NFL Network >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NBA TV

NBA on NBC >>> TNT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NBA on ESPN

The MLB Network shyts on NBA TV too.

 

[Lord Beasley]

Wym. Look how professional the colour commentary is

His podcast is damn good tho actually

 

[DjMe]

You mean to tell me a multi billion dollar organization can't hire some people who can break down games? Give me a break.

You gotta understand, these shows aren't trying to teach you, they're trying to reach you.
The human mind is built to consume story structures: beginning, middle, and end.
Beginning is the set up, the intro, the hook--they tell you why you should care.
Middle is the conflict, where you're on the edge of your seat.
End is the climax, where you get the conflict resolution, and it leads into a new beginning.
The Harden Saga is a great repeating story line:
Beginning: he wants out of philly
Middle: cold war in philly "ill never speak to morey again"
End: traded to the clippers, leading to a new beginning
beginning: he's in LA, will he continue his same play style
middle: were living this right now, tune in tonight to see how it goes
end: playoffs, how will he do
This happens on a micro level every night, or at least, leagues want it to: every game should have a narrative leading into it, which is what the announcers try to tee up at the beginning, the middle is the game, and the end is the final score--some form of conflict resolution that hopefully leaves questions unanswered to be answered next game.

Analysis, breakdowns, all that shyt--that is a whole different level than how a typical consumer engages with a product, or wants to, from an entertainment perspective, because there's no conflict... unless you have a ridiculously, long, nuanced runway into each topic.
Like, the Pistons coach is running too many of one set of plays or whatnot--ok, that's the set up... thats the beginning... then the middle, you're calling the game.. he runs too many of those plays again... and the resolution is.....? Join us tomorrow night to see if it happens again?
Nah, that's not gonna hook people.

The media exists to make money. And the way to make money is to sell stories. And the way to sell stories is to generate conflict. And the way to generate conflict is through pettiness and interpersonal drama. End of the day, you don't NEED any of these shows, the announcers, the play by play, none of it. If you buy tickets to a game, you go to the arena, none of that is present. That shyt doesn't exist to supplement the product, it exists as it's OWN product.

 

[Dorian Breh]

He saw Glenn Rivers got a job commentating and had to make this statement

That decrepit goof doesnt even understand the concept of running a play

 

[Born2BKing]

Let's be real, how many folks actually tuning in for that? It ain't like Jaworksi diagramming plays on a weekly show and as popular as that was, it even got the axe.

Exactly, its' entertainment first and foremost. For those who are interested in that stuff, it's 100000 youtube pages with complete breakdown of offense and defensive strategies. Knock yourself out.

 

[Born2BKing]

You gotta understand, these shows aren't trying to teach you, they're trying to reach you.
The human mind is built to consume story structures: beginning, middle, and end.
Beginning is the set up, the intro, the hook--they tell you why you should care.
Middle is the conflict, where you're on the edge of your seat.
End is the climax, where you get the conflict resolution, and it leads into a new beginning.
The Harden Saga is a great repeating story line:
Beginning: he wants out of philly
Middle: cold war in philly "ill never speak to morey again"
End: traded to the clippers, leading to a new beginning
beginning: he's in LA, will he continue his same play style
middle: were living this right now, tune in tonight to see how it goes
end: playoffs, how will he do
This happens on a micro level every night, or at least, leagues want it to: every game should have a narrative leading into it, which is what the announcers try to tee up at the beginning, the middle is the game, and the end is the final score--some form of conflict resolution that hopefully leaves questions unanswered to be answered next game.

Analysis, breakdowns, all that shyt--that is a whole different level than how a typical consumer engages with a product, or wants to, from an entertainment perspective, because there's no conflict... unless you have a ridiculously, long, nuanced runway into each topic.
Like, the Pistons coach is running too many of one set of plays or whatnot--ok, that's the set up... thats the beginning... then the middle, you're calling the game.. he runs too many of those plays again... and the resolution is.....? Join us tomorrow night to see if it happens again?
Nah, that's not gonna hook people.

The media exists to make money. And the way to make money is to sell stories. And the way to sell stories is to generate conflict. And the way to generate conflict is through pettiness and interpersonal drama. End of the day, you don't NEED any of these shows, the announcers, the play by play, none of it. If you buy tickets to a game, you go to the arena, none of that is present. That shyt doesn't exist to supplement the product, it exists as it's OWN product.

Are you a marketing exec? This was a brilliant post.