Since this is probably Kobe's last season playing, I guess it's time to admit

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Another L

1. Shaq > wade/bosh
2. Compare their fg and 3 pt % then come back to me
3. Wins take an entire team
:russell:You the one takin Ls

1. Again Kobe won without Shaq, LeBron hasn't won without Wade/Bosh so your argument is invalid
2. Everyone knows Kobe's a better shooter LeBron still doesn't have a consistent jumpshot, compare LeBron's highest scorin game to Kobe's 81 then come back to me
3. Greats like Jordan and Kobe lead their teams to wins, fans of inferior players make excuses:mjpls:
 

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That doesn't change the fact that Kobe HAS had better teammates. Since we are ignoring career length with the 5-2 argument (it's 2-2 since LeBron entered the league) let's look at how many years each had better teammates.
1997-2005 Kobe
2006-2007 LeBron
2008-2010 Kobe
2011-2016 LeBron

I count 12-8 :manny:

And to be fair, I think prime Kobe would have won with the Heat and prime LeBron would have won with the dominant front lines Kobe had in LA so ring count doesn't tell us much.
alright I'll bite. reply with something better.
1. Kobe went to 3 straight finals with old ass Derek Fisher as his starting PG. A PG called the worst starting PG in the NBA by many advanced stat guys on ESPN....

I hope u dont reply with something like: "What FIsher did cannot be measured by stats" :troll:
 

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when did kobe ever better teammates than wade/bosh in his career aside from Shaq?:jbhmm: he was playing along smush parker and kwame at the peak of his prime while lebron was with wade/bosh in their primes(wade's prime ended in their third year).


ron harper played with kobe when he was 35+.

same with malone.

caron one year.

horace grant one year when he was 38.

rodman played 23 games with kobe when he was 37.

Glen Rice was only there for 2 years, again after he was 30.

Gary Payton? One year, 35.

By the time Kobe was actually starting both Jones and Van Exel were gone.


yet you actually posted shaq's years of experience while blatantly ignoring the rest of this shyt.




This is one of the dumbest threads I've seen in a long time. I don't care if you think lebron is better than kobe, i don't agree, but trying to use "kobe had better teammates" with a shyt list like that with absolutely no context is about the dumbest fukking argument there is.

Yep...straight shytted on the dumbass thread starter:blessed:

I love how he put Shaq on there 17+ years but acted like Kobe was playing with those old ass nikkas in their prime :dead: nikka you aint fukkin slick lol
 

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:russell:You the one takin Ls

1. Again Kobe won without Shaq, LeBron hasn't won without Wade/Bosh so your argument is invalid
2. Everyone knows Kobe's a better shooter LeBron still doesn't have a consistent jumpshot, compare LeBron's highest scorin game to Kobe's 81 then come back to me
3. Greats like Jordan and Kobe lead their teams to wins, fans of inferior players make excuses:mjpls:

1. lebron had nobody last finals.. with the right team around him.. he will at least make the finals
2. again check out their fg and 3 pt % .. kobe scored 81 points against the worst team in nba history.. fg % > ppg
 

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Id rather have shaq then any player besides michael jordan if i was kobe or lebron

Shaq imo > bosh + wade
 

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alright I'll bite. reply with something better.
1. Kobe went to 3 straight finals with old ass Derek Fisher as his starting PG. A PG called the worst starting PG in the NBA by many advanced stat guys on ESPN....

I hope u dont reply with something like: "What FIsher did cannot be measured by stats" :troll:
Fisher is fukking garbage but would you have accepted a Pau Bynum Odom Fisher for Varejao mo Williams delonte ilgauskas offer?
 

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Yeah, and I said I'd ignore it since team Kobe is.

But I'm not:mjpls:

According to you, LeBron has been surrounded by better teammates than Kobe has in 8 of their 13 career seasons in the NBA together thus far....but yet, he's only managed to acquire the same number of rings during that same time span with better players surrounding him:wow:
 

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But I'm not:mjpls:

According to you, LeBron has been surrounded by better teammates than Kobe has in 8 of their 13 career seasons in the NBA together thus far....but yet, he's only managed to acquire the same number of rings during that same time span with better players surrounding him:wow:
And LeBron has been much more successful during that time, individually and teamwise.
 

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LeBron is better than Kobe as an all time great, but not because of teammates unless you're going to use that crazy argument of "5>2", which can obviously be countered with "Shaq". Doesn't have more rings because he's better at basketball.
You may wanna take them nikkas out of your avi
 

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Fisher is fukking garbage but would you have accepted a Pau Bynum Odom Fisher for Varejao mo Williams delonte ilgauskas offer?
:pachaha:try harder. I'm talking about comparing 2 squads that went to 3 straight finals.


and yes you right Fisher is garbage....Kobe went to 3 str8 finals with him as his starting PG :wow:
 

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Yeah, and I said I'd ignore it since team Kobe is.
How do we ignore Kobes 3 championships where he was an integral part? In many series he was the best player during the threepeat... How can we ignore dudes legacy when comparing him to a modern player? Bron has a long way to pass Kobes legacy but he has a great chance
 
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