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AT THIS RATE ULL REALIZE KOBE WAS LEVELS ABOVE LEBRON BY 2024

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You do hate LeBron too much tho. But I understand it. Media acts like he is a lock for Top 2 all time at worst, but don't give Kobe credit for being Shaq's equal since at least 2002 and better since 2003.

Like I said I was being an idiot for ranking him outside of top 10, but I did that because I was being an idiot. There are people in media who know he is top 10 but rank him outside because of their hidden agendas. To me that's worse
 

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You do hate LeBron too much tho. But I understand it. Media acts like he is a lock for Top 2 all time at worst, but don't give Kobe credit for being Shaq's equal since at least 2002 and better since 2003.

Like I said I was being an idiot for ranking him outside of top 10, but I did that because I was being an idiot. There are people in media who know he is top 10 but rank him outside because of their hidden agendas. To me that's worse


I DONT HATE LEBRON AT ALL .... HE IS JUST HIGHLY OVERRATED BY THE SAME AGENDA THAT UNDERRATES KOBE
 

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LeBron was better than rose in 2011 lol
LeBron was technically the best player in the game. I take points away from LeBron due to his Finals performance and because he had also lost explosiveness from years prior. It was a weird year and the hiearchy hadn't been established between he and Wade. As a LeBron fan it's one of my least favorite years watching him play.

Rose led a 62 team and was the best crunch time player in the game that year and the narrative does matter. I rewarded Rose for having one of the most memorable years we've seen out a PG.
 
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What are you using to rank players? It seems almost as bad as SI's.

Memory of the climate at the time, but maybe my memory of it ain't great as displayed by some of the responses. I ain't perfect lol...

I remember his season, and I remember the conversation. I remember having and hearing debates about whether KG was better than Duncan, and the consensus was always Duncan was better. I was in 9th grade the 2003-04 year, and right around that time was kind of a KG stan, I was one of the guys who argued him as better than Duncan, but that was definitely a minority opinion at my school/circle, and seemed to be a minority opinion overall...

'04 was KG's GOAT season, I just viee it as he had the best season that year, but he wasn't the best player. It's hard for me to give it to him over Duncan, you don't become the best player with one hot year----->you can argue Duncan was arguably the best player going back to 1998-99, when you account for how he balled against LA in the playoffs and the idea that the Lakers were inadvertantly helped to their first title by not having to go thru him...

By the time '04 comes around, Duncan had been seen as better than KG going back 6 years, I can't say somebody is better than a guy that the previous 6 years have shown the other guy was more consistently great, more consistently dominant. KG had the best individual season in '04. He still wasn't better than Duncan, and I feel like Kobe and Shaq were still debated about, even if not definitively better...

He's called the "most versatile player in the league" and the "best player on the planet period" by announcers in this :hubie:


The "best player on the planet period" guy is a Wolves PA guy lmao....nah I'm kidding, I get your point bro...

In real time, nobody saw Steve Nash or Dirk or Chris Paul as the actual best player in the league even when they had MVP seasons. Nobody was calling Kawhi the best either last season until the end of the Finals, Giannis was looked at as the best all year long. The criteria here seems iffy but as long as it gets clicks :yeshrug:

Dirk was in the conversation though, Nash wasn't. Neither was Paul...

I really think Dirk's work is diminished on here and by brothers in general. I don't think he was ever definitively the best player at any time, but he for sure was on a 2-3 year streak that had him in that conversation...

Agree with you about Kawhi too. Literally nobody was calling him Top 2 before the playoffs last year. He and KD both were eating early in the playoffs, and everyone knew Giannis was gonna win MVP and he was steamrolling teams, so it was a 3-man race. But there was literally no talk about Kawhi being definitively better than anyone until they won the title, even in The Finals when KD could possibly return, nobody was outright calling Kawhi better...
 

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I DONT HATE LEBRON AT ALL .... HE IS JUST HIGHLY OVERRATED BY THE SAME AGENDA THAT UNDERRATES KOBE
Ok but I feel like you should cut him some slack, I mean I seen you compare LBJ to Dominique Wilkins :deadmanny: You could just say Larry Bird is the better SF or something like that. After all, the guy is playing for your team now.
 

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Ok but I feel like you should cut him some slack, I mean I seen you compare LBJ to Dominique Wilkins :deadmanny: You could just say Larry Bird is the better SF or something like that. After all, the guy is playing for your team now.


DOMINIQUE WAS A BEAST WHO PLAYED ON WOAT TEAMS.. ITS NOT A DISS AT ALL

IM ROOTING FOR LEBRON

I JUST CALL IT LIKE IT IS HOMIE
 

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DOMINIQUE WAS A BEAST WHO PLAYED ON WOAT TEAMS.. ITS NOT A DISS AT ALL

IM ROOTING FOR LEBRON

I JUST CALL IT LIKE IT IS HOMIE
Yea he was a beast, maybe even better scorer than LBJ but the rest of their games there's no comparision imo. Comparing his let's say passing to LeBrons? Thats like comparing LeBron's footwork or midrange game to Kobe, pointless
 

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In real time, nobody saw Steve Nash or Dirk or Chris Paul as the actual best player in the league even when they had MVP seasons. Nobody was calling Kawhi the best either last season until the end of the Finals, Giannis was looked at as the best all year long. The criteria here seems iffy but as long as it gets clicks :yeshrug:
Well the playoffs is where u separate yourself from all the other great players. We all know regular season is much different from the playoffs. So of course a guy like Kawhi, whose stats will never pop like Giannis, has to continually prove himself by beating him and others to get that top spot. So if hes top 5 before the playoffs and beats formidable opponents and takes out other top 5 talents along the way I dont see why he cant go up those few notches from those performances. Dude basically has to start all over again for yall nikkas every year anyway lol

I get your point about Nash and CP tho cause they actually never won or came close to it to show for their MVPs.
 

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Yea he was a beast, maybe even better scorer than LBJ but the rest of their games there's no comparision imo. Comparing his let's say passing to LeBrons? Thats like comparing LeBron's footwork or midrange game to Kobe, pointless

NO THEIR GAMES ARENT THAT MUCH ALIKE

MY COMPARISON IS MORE SO IN SAYIN THEY A SIMILAR CALIBER OF PLAYER
 

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My best player alive since 2000 :jbhmm:

2000: Shaq
2001: Shaq
2002: Duncan
2003: Duncan
2004: Garnett
2005: Duncan
2006: Kobe
2007: Kobe
2008: Kobe
2009: LeBron
2010: LeBron
2011: D-Rose
2012: LeBron
2013: LeBron
2014: LeBron
2015: Steph
2016: Steph
2017: Kawhi
2018: LeBron
2019: Kawhi
2020: Giannis
2011 for DRose? :what:
 
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