SMACK/URL Presents Resolution | Cassidy VS Goodz | PPV DISCUSSION THREAD

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Yeah people that aren’t gonna at least give cassidy props for his first round are people whose opinion I can’t respect

He had a dry spot but finished up strong

Unfortunately he lost the crowd in the second

I’m just mad cuz he could’ve and should’ve definitely beat that shyt goodz came with even with the gas they was giving goodz

Cass just didn’t have enough variation in his shyt and he coulda got way more personal with goodz

He shoulda beat that goodz performance easily smh

Fam.... Idk what you mad about, most of us with sense told you how this would go, I've never cared for Goodz as a battle rapper a day in my life up until he shocked us w/Roc battle, even then I still had Goodz with an Easy 30 going into this. You have to be CONDITIONED for this. You can't just jump and have an Amazing performance if you never been in the field all this time.

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Cassidy first was okay if we're grading on a curve. It's good for a non-battler, but for a vet his first was light. But good for a newbie.

Second and third was terrible.

His first may very well be my favorite round from a former industry guy. I thought it was surprisingly good (for him) on the first watch. That may change on the second watch.

I'm going to exclude Mickey Factz, because I just view him as an independent artist.
 

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Fam.... Idk what you mad about, most of us with sense told you how this would go, I've never cared for Goodz as a battle rapper a day in my life up until he shocked us w/Roc battle, even then I still had Goodz with an Easy 30 going into this. You have to be CONDITIONED for this. You can't just jump and have an Amazing performance if you never been in the field all this time.

:francis:

:pachaha:
I’m not literally mad I just thought cass coulda beat that shyt goodz came with

Idk if it’s as much conditioning as it is being an outsider vs an insider

Does Los have conditioning? He came in and made that shyt look easy imo when he battled head ice

He’s not an “insider” either but he came with a good strategy

My point is that was his first battle on a stage and he did great imo so I don’t buy this conditioning thing it’s not that serious

What I think y’all mean by “conditioning” is being able to sell average to trash material to a large crowd lol cuz that’s what I saw with goodz
 

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How are people really saying Cass first round was trash??? Y'all really don't listen to bars and only go off crowd reaction.
Because people dont think the round was that good, they were judging off crowd reaction even though people are arguing that the bars weren't actually THAT crazy and people are giving him that round BECAUSE of the reaction he got.

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Here's some bars I wrote down in Nittys second that I liked.



You glorify your trapping though, the whole world they know now, but aint you supposed to pitch on the low? I got to bring the bear a tone down

I bring it to you if you start, I grab 2ks an black top, shooting at the park

Think it’s all goodie with the mob, take out Cass… dungeon family

I split ya shyt, serious, YNW Melly, not the one to get too friendly with

Right outside of top spot like an honorable mention

If the first shot don’t tap him out, another 5 in the back would, I peel top and air a matic out

The cal it ‘ll give em another one, and another one, Captain morgan the bear’ll get stepped on in front of Rum

I shoot to the bear n’ land, til the desert empty

Got on hot 97, and choked on the radio you aint do the right thing

Honorable mention bar from another round, that you get a vigil and tee shyt sheesh
 

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Great analysis but goodz had A LOT of wack material

But battle rap is theatre now and you can say garbage shyt but as long as you sell it to the crowd you’ll stay alive which I think is so wack

I saw that a lot last night

People like k shine (doing his best impersonation of a nikka that rapped right before him but somehow doesn’t get bood out the building)

T- top, Suge, etc as long as you amp your corny shyt up, bark at the crowd, and have a couple of corny hypemen in your corner you’ll survive even with the lamest material

John John should have got tomatoes thrown at him out the gate

I’m not mad at people saying cass lost cuz I definitely thought he was gonna come better but what “wins” you a battle these days is hilarious to me this shyt is waaaay too theatrical I’m good

nikkas putting on aprons and Walmart vests lol smh

Even rum nitty who supposedly “left earth” had me falling asleep tbh so I must be washed up I want my money back lol

Edit: I thought young ill was really dope too....him and twork the only nikkas I was really fukking with last night...twork the only nikka that can get away with all those sound effects and headshot shyt imo

All this you said shows you haven't kept up in a while. And thats okay. You are mad at theatrics and all that but its like we have been telling you: battle has changed. You cannot expect it to stay the same from they battled on the block or for record deals. It became an industry itself.

@KushSkywalker broke down perfectly the perspective of die hard fans and fans who came back to check out battle for only this match.
 
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Hey the "it used be about bars back in my day" guys. You know most of us are ya'll age too and followed battle rap then too, we just stayed with it as it evolved.

You guys say that like Cass had bars and no one else didn't.

We didn't like Cass shyt cause his style is played and his bars actually are mostly not there.

Cassidy still doing 'the chrome pop, I'm hotter than stovetop" bars.

He said I bring out mo hawks you can die here/hair...odell.

Mo hawks/mo' hawks, and die here/hair has been played out since like 2008. That shyt literally been used about 250 times already. And his shyt is filled with bars like that.

Nitty's punches I posted above are all pretty much original, not forced, clever, and make you say damn. What Cass bars do that?
 

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I’m not literally mad I just thought cass coulda beat that shyt goodz came with

Idk if it’s as much conditioning as it is being an outsider vs an insider

Does Los have conditioning? He came in and made that shyt look easy imo when he battled head ice

He’s not an “insider” either but he came with a good strategy

My point is that was his first battle on a stage and he did great imo so I don’t buy this conditioning thing it’s not that serious

What I think y’all mean by “conditioning” is being able to sell average to trash material to a large crowd lol cuz that’s what I saw with goodz

The only reason King Los won, is because Head Ice came with the worst performance of his career. King Los should have been 3-0'd with the material he came with.

Don't get me wrong, he rapped well, but he wasn't really effective battling.
 

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Honorable Mention bar was Doritos. Everything else was garbage.
2k black top shootin at the park? Top is in a crew called park life, black top his name obviously is top, 2ks. There's been a lot of bars with 2k/2ks but this was cleverly done.

YNW not the one to get two/too friendly with, killed his two friends obviously.

5 in the back would/backwood, peel top air a matic/aromatic out. Get a backwood, peel the top and aromatics come out?

Cal it'll /khaled'll give him another one, captain morgan the bear'll/barrell get stepped on in front of rum. Tops nickname is the bear, the barrell obviously is getting stepped on on the front of the captain morgan rum bottle.

Shoot to the bear n'/barren land, til the desert empty. An empty desert is a barren land.

Choked on the radio, you aint do the right thing. Radio got choked on in do the right thing.

You gon get a vigilantee/ vigil and tee, what?

That shyt's garbage to you? :dwillhuh:
 

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I'm not gonna lie yall. I feel robbed. I want my $50 back. Rum, T-Top, and Brizz are the only ones that did their thing. I didn't catch the Shine/Roc battle yet. And I couldnt finish Cass and Goodz. Went to see Avengers instesd. URL got me again. I think after Nome I might be done. Might just listen to Black Compass and AFM recap shows.
 
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I thought Cass was gonna be way more creative. Like how in his last battle he imitated Dizaster style, I thought he was going to step outside of the just bars box a little bit and have way more of a personals and angles approach. Especially due to his prior history with Goodz.

The 2006 bars with the same monotone delivery every round by itself wasnt going to cut it.
 
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