SMH...it is as if OutKast never existed in Atlanta

[JustCKing]

There's no way So So Def had a bigger movement in Atlanta than DF when DF had all this in rotation:

OutKast's albums (Southernplayalistic, ATLiens, Aquemini)
Goodie Mob's albums (Soul Food, Still Standing, World Party)
Kilo Ali's Organized Bass
OutKast feat. Cee Lo Green- In Due Time
Lil' Will- Lookin' For Nikki
Witchdoctor- Holiday

^^^ That's just the 90's and not even getting into some of the R&B stuff like TLC's "Waterfalls" and En Vogue's "Let Go".

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

- The whole So So Def label was not known. Outside of Jagged Edge, Xscape, Da Brat, JD, Kriss Kross, and Bow Wow, a lot of people are unfamiliar with the artists that didn't put out albums.

this is petty-pinchin'.

EVERY LABEL has artists on the shelf that nobody knows about. so whats your point? clearly i wasnt referring to the artists that sat around doing nothing.

There's no way So So Def had a bigger movement in Atlanta than DF when DF had all this in rotation:

OutKast's albums (Southernplayalistic, ATLiens, Aquemini)
Goodie Mob's albums (Soul Food, Still Standing, World Party)
Kilo Ali's Organized Bass
OutKast feat. Cee Lo Green- In Due Time
Lil' Will- Lookin' For Nikki
Witchdoctor- Holiday

^^^ That's just the 90's and not even getting into some of the R&B stuff like TLC's "Waterfalls" and En Vogue's "Let Go".

for starters, neither of these crews had a movement. PLEASE retire this word people.

and again, we're having 2 different conversations. you seem to be talking about dungeon family's impact locally, cuz most of ths stuff you listed either wasnt poppin like that or didnt pop at all nationally. meanwhile, i was just responding to what somebody else said and i mentioned what atlanta was more known for. your arguments are directed at the wrong person.

with that said, so so def had all the jams coming out of there. they were in competition with bad boy.

 

[JustCKing]

this is petty-pinchin'.

EVERY LABEL has artists on the shelf that nobody knows about. so whats your point? clearly i wasnt referring to the artists that sat around doing nothing.





for starters, neither of these crews had a movement. PLEASE retire this word people.

and again, we're having 2 different conversations. you seem to be talking about dungeon family's impact locally, cuz most of ths stuff you listed either wasnt poppin like that or didnt pop at all nationally. meanwhile, i was just responding to what somebody else said and i mentioned what atlanta was more known for. your arguments are directed at the wrong person.

with that said, so so def had all the jams coming out of there. they were in competition with bad boy.

What exactly was your point? You were the one who brought up how known the artists on So So Def was known. Who exactly were you referring to?

You were the one who brought up movement, not me.

Of course I'm talking locally because it's a thread about what existed in Atlanta. Even outside of Atlanta, So So Def never had an act bigger than OutKast Hip Hop wise.

So So Def was never competition for Bad Boy. They had a close relationship with JD remixing songs for Biggie and Da Brat appearing on songs with Biggie and Total, but Death Row, No Limit, CMR, and Ruff Ryders were the only labels that competed with Bad Boy.

 

[PortCityProphet]

Yo where's that thread about Big Boi being more and more embarrassed to be seen on an album cover with Dre as time went on. Was that on here or sohh?

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

What exactly was your point? You were the one who brought up how known the artists on So So Def was known. Who exactly were you referring to?

You were the one who brought up movement, not me.

Of course I'm talking locally because it's a thread about what existed in Atlanta. Even outside of Atlanta, So So Def never had an act bigger than OutKast Hip Hop wise.

So So Def was never competition for Bad Boy. They had a close relationship with JD remixing songs for Biggie and Da Brat appearing on songs with Biggie and Total, but Death Row, No Limit, CMR, and Ruff Ryders were the only labels that competed with Bad Boy.

the problem is, my point was meant for someone else. not you or the thread in general. in what directly in response to someone else's post.

i dont throw the term "movement" around all willy-nilly. so it wasnt me that brought that word up. only real movement that came outta atlanta was snowman.

as for the last statement, you can be friendly and still compete at the same time breh. COME ON.

 

[JustCKing]

the problem is, my point was meant for someone else. not you or the thread in general. in what directly in response to someone else's post.

i dont throw the term "movement" around all willy-nilly. so it wasnt me that brought that word up. only real movement that came outta atlanta was snowman.

as for the last statement, you can be friendly and still compete at the same time breh. COME ON.

thread is funny.

when dungeon family was in their prime, atlanta was more known for so so def & bounce music.

then came pastor troy, drama, miracle, etc.

^^^ This was the response that I quoted of yous initially. How was this not for the thread in general when you addressed the "thread" as "funny". You went on to erroneously state that Atlanta was more known for So So Def and Bounce music in Dungeon Family's prime. I addressed it because it isn't true. Just like the statement that the only real movement that came out of Atlanta was snowman isn't true. Dungeon Family >>>>. From Kast to Goodie to Attic Crew [Young Bloodz, Jim Crow (notably Polow Da Don)] to Future all spawned from Dungeon Family.

 

[DANJ!]

Outkast (and by extension, the whole DF) was always something that was in and of itself.

Outkast itself was built off of the fact that they were different from the norm. So why would one think there was supposed to be a legion of artists from ATL doing what they did?

Just like I'm sure in Chicago, there ain't a bunch of Kanye Jr's out there, cause it ain't exactly easy to copy him.

When an act does something outside of the norm, that doesn't mean they become the norm, they remain in their own mold. Matter fact, most who try to follow in the footsteps of that act don't make it, cause they're cited for obviously tryin' to copy them. So there's no way ATL was ever gonna become a bunch of artists making music in the style of Outkast.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

^^^ This was the response that I quoted of yous initially. How was this not for the thread in general when you addressed the "thread" as "funny". You went on to erroneously state that Atlanta was more known for So So Def and Bounce music in Dungeon Family's prime. I addressed it because it isn't true. Just like the statement that the only real movement that came out of Atlanta was snowman isn't true. Dungeon Family >>>>. From Kast to Goodie to Attic Crew [Young Bloodz, Jim Crow (notably Polow Da Don)] to Future all spawned from Dungeon Family.

yea that was a response post. i remember that.

and yes, atlanta rap was more synonymous with so so def & bounce music.

as for the last part, the term "movement" is played out. most people using the term at this point, dont really get it.

 

[JustCKing]

yea that was a response post. i remember that.

and yes, atlanta rap was more synonymous with so so def & bounce music.

as for the last part, the term "movement" is played out. most people using the term at this point, dont really get it.

Saying Atlanta rap was more synonymous with So So Def is a joke. Da Brat repped Chicago. Bow Wow repped Cincinnati. Jermaine Dupri himself was the only one holding it down for the A. His A Town anthem is viewed as more Luda's song than it is his even though it was JD's Instructions first. So So Def's rap scene definitely isn't synonymous with Atlanta. Dungeon Family had a bigger presence.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Saying Atlanta rap was more synonymous with So So Def is a joke. Da Brat repped Chicago. Bow Wow repped Cincinnati. Jermaine Dupri himself was the only one holding it down for the A. His A Town anthem is viewed as more Luda's song than it is his even though it was JD's Instructions first. So So Def's rap scene definitely isn't synonymous with Atlanta. Dungeon Family had a bigger presence.

nah. dungeon family did not have a bigger presence. they didnt have many jams and werent as popular as theyre made out to be in hindsight. now if youre talking about their presence LOCALLY, then once again - thats not my argument.

as for the locality, so so def was atlanta-based. thats all that really matters. rocafella was basically a philly label for a while but it was still synonymous with new york first.

alot of people assumed da brat was from atlanta actually. especially thru the 1st run. and youre getting your timeframes mixed up. bow wow? ludacris? you sure you were around breh?

 

[DANJ!]

The So So Def argument is kinda out of whack... JD himself used to complain that he wasn't given credit for being part of the Southern movement when it really started rolling. And rightfully, he wasn't because most of his acts weren't from the South, and he never really immersed himself in the Southern hip-hop scene until he wasn't getting recognized. He was doing Cali shyt, and then doin' his Puff Daddy shyt... once Southern hip-hop was really starting to dominate, he was vocal about not getting his recognition, and almost immediately after that he began making moves and collabing with those artists. But he wasn't exactly heavy into that scene until then.

 

[Citi Trends]

my god this thread is so fukking retarded
dudes really have no inkling of what goes on in the south

 

[hex]

I dunno how old dudes are but So So Def/JD wasn't really taken that seriously initially. Not by my age bracket at least. Da Brat was a Snoop clone and JD wasn't exactly setting the world on fire on some rap shyt. Kriss Kross was seen as a kiddy group. I'd even go as far as to say their R&B shyt was better received than their rap, no idea what each sold though. I'm just going off what people were listening to.

Fred.

 

[AVXL]

I never hear Outkast on the radio

They're on the old school rap/r&b stations like 102.9 & 99.3 so GTFOH

Kast has influenced the A & the South significantly...BOB, Future, Killer Mike, BIG Krit, Dirty, Nappy Roots. BTW, their are a lot of rappers on the come up in ATL (Father, Two 9, Scotty ATL) who cite Kast as direct influences. Just because you don't hear an artist who sounds exactly like them on the radio doesn't mean the influence isn't there. Last year's OutKast concert in the A brought the WHOLE city out...that speaks directly to their influence culturally & musically

 

[Rigby.]

Future killing shyt stfu