So are we holding Dame to a standard this year or does he get to play the perpetual underdog? Again

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there are some dumbass, simple simon nikkas in this thread :snoop:

clearly steph is better than dame.

Dame been losing to non-contending teams for years

2015 - 1st rd exit to the grizzlies
2016 - was down 2-0 to the lob city Clippers, but injuries happened so they won
2018 - got SWEPT by the 6-seeded pelicans without demarcus cousins. fukking SWEPT. locked up by Jrue and Rondo. Basically cuz dude cant move off-ball
2019 - thank god CJ was there to carry him past denver

yall are some rubes. getting fooled by some long 3 pointers
 

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Because said player gets called equal to or better than said players who are held to said standard .
That’s my only quibble, people gotta quit comparing him to players he inferior than just because he has a 50 point game every now and then

That's not an across the board, cut and dry standard though. You didn't even come up with it until the CF shyt got debunked. Everyone is gonna have their own standard. So you are basically saying "He doesn't meet my standard but for those of you who he does who obviously have a different standard are you gonna hold him to my standard that wasn't even made clear until page 15?"
 

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That's not an across the board, cut and dry standard though. You didn't even come up with it until the CF shyt got debunked. Everyone is gonna have their own standard. So you are basically saying "He doesn't meet my standard but for those of you who he does who obviously have a different standard are you gonna hold him to my standard that wasn't even made clear until page 15?"
give it up

Dame aint the guy

Dame has some good reg season games - "dame is better than steph. i been telling y'all" :blessed:

Dame inevitably fizzles in the playoffs and has multiple bad shooting games - "well what yall expect him to do with this roster? people dont wanna go to portland"


Oochie wally or one mic????
 

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You had people all on the Coli saying that he's equal to or better than Steph. When you start saying that, i'ma need him to start achieving the same shyt Steph has achieved.

Do YOU think that Dame is ELITE? Simple yes or no.....

So you just aren't gonna answer the very simple and direct questions directed towards you? You are gonna jump in on another convo demanding that I answer new questions when you won't even answer the questions directed at you? Only reason it's gone this far is I respect you as a poster. If we can't establish a basic basis for the discussion and some sort of consistency then I would rather not engage. That's no offense to you.
 

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give it up

Dame aint the guy

Dame has some good reg season games - "dame is better than steph. i been telling y'all" :blessed:

Dame inevitably fizzles in the playoffs and has multiple bad shooting games - "well what yall expect him to do with this roster? people dont wanna go to portland"


Oochie wally or one mic????

Exactly. If he ain't the guy why are you looking for him to be held to the guy standards...whatever they are?
 

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Exactly. If he ain't the guy why are you looking for him to be held to the guy standards...whatever they are?
i'm literally not. i dont think he's the guy, and he will NEVER be the guy. He will give some nice reg season performances, but he will never get to the finals. Not as the number 1 option

Steph has already done that. and he has personally outclassed Damian lillard. Thats why steph is better.
 

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i'm literally not. i dont think he's the guy, and he will NEVER be the guy. He will give some nice reg season performances, but he will never get to the finals. Not as the number 1 option

Steph has already done that. and he has personally outclassed Damian lillard. Thats why steph is better.

That ain't what the thread is about though. Thread is about this standard that Dame is supposed to be held to. I haven't been able to get clear, consistent answers on said standard and the consequences for failing to meet said standard...especially when you are already saying he's not on the level to begin with.
 

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So you just aren't gonna answer the very simple and direct questions directed towards you? You are gonna jump in on another convo demanding that I answer new questions when you won't even answer the questions directed at you? Only reason it's gone this far is I respect you as a poster. If we can't establish a basic basis for the discussion and some sort of consistency then I would rather not engage. That's no offense to you.
You’ve thoroughly talked yourself into a circle. Every question you allegedly want answered has already been addressed in this very thread
 

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So you just aren't gonna answer the very simple and direct questions directed towards you? You are gonna jump in on another convo demanding that I answer new questions when you won't even answer the questions directed at you? Only reason it's gone this far is I respect you as a poster. If we can't establish a basic basis for the discussion and some sort of consistency then I would rather not engage. That's no offense to you.

Yea we might as well just end it on this one. I don't consider Dame elite, some do. For the ones that do hold him to an elite standard, he needs to start achieving what a PG who i consider elite, Steph Curry, has achieved. That's what i'm saying. If you don't think that's possible or even something he can get close to doing, then maybe people need to not call him elite. The standard as many have said, is damn near make it to the finals or it's a bust season. Nobody cares about what Giannis, Bron, Kawhi, KD, Steph, Harden does anymore in the reg season; they're now judged by what they do in the playoffs. That's the standard i'ma hold Dame too if y'all call him elite.
 

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That ain't what the thread is about though. Thread is about this standard that Dame is supposed to be held to. I haven't been able to get clear, consistent answers on said standard and the consequences for failing to meet said standard...especially when you are already saying he's not on the level to begin with.
im responding to the steph comparisons

dame is gonna have a good reg season, get a top 8 seeding, and most likely lose in round 1.

People act like he is better than he is. and allow themselves to be fooled every year. dame is a tier 2 star in the league,
 

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You’ve thoroughly talked yourself into a circle. Every question you allegedly want answered has already been addressed in this very thread

right, you've been consistent with your point since page 1 but nikkaz wanna be obtuse. Now I ask him is Dame elite and now he can't answer that. Harden and Giannis are elite to me and they haven't gotten over the hump or even made the finals and everytime they fall short, me and along with EVERYONE else on this board give them nikkaz ALLLLLLL the smoke. How many "Giannis is Tyrus Thomas with a Greek passport" type of thread or comments was thrown around when Miami beat them? But when Dame loses in the playoffs, it's "stop picking on him, he's not suppose to ever win a title".

Well maybe he's cool on not trying to put pressure on the front office to make better moves or put himself in a better position to advance to the finals. Maybe he's content on not having THOSE kind of expectations but nikkaz don't wanna have that convo yet :mjpls:
 

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Somebody gets called more impactful than Jordan and cats wonder why the standard is different lol...and then it's not even truly different.
And if you're called more impactful than the guy that got called more impactful than Jordan then the expectations should really be high right? :mjlol: this is too easy.
 

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And if you're called more impactful than the guy that got called more impactful than Jordan then the expectations should really be high right? :mjlol: this is too easy.
Or the player who's more impactful than Jordan should be expected to be able to carry a middling team from October till May without elite help right?
 

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Or the player who's more impactful than Jordan should be expected to be able to carry a middling team from October till May without elite help right?
Depends on the competition....can't see anyone doing it alone in this stacked western conference. No matter how much more offensive impact one may have over Jordan...:mjgrin:













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