So can we all agree that Joe Flacco is an elite QB?

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Flacco is not elite at all.

I don't understand the fascination with labeling QBs off of playoff runs. Dude is what he's always been a second/third tier QB who's not a game changer but will deliver solid play.

Elite QBs are game changers.
 

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No, Joe Flacco is not elite. Regardless of all the reactionary muh fukkas that are going to pop up this season he is NOT elite. I hate the Falcons with a passion, but Matt Ryan is better than Flacco and even he isn't elite

Matt ryan has the best receiving core in nfl history and he couldnt even get to the super bowl

He just won his first playoff game.

Flacco is better than ryan the same reason brady is better than peyton. They show up in the playoffs (90% of the time)
 

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█ W.D.Y.D. █;3131672 said:
Flacco is not elite at all.

I don't understand the fascination with labeling QBs off of playoff runs. Dude is what he's always been a second/third tier QB who's not a game changer but will deliver solid play.

Elite QBs are game changers.
so the super bowl mvp of the super bowl this year didn't change the game?

287 yards passing, 3 td, 0 int?

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█ W.D.Y.D. █;3131719 said:
you have Flacco up there with a Tom Brady now off one game?
where have you been?

how many years has joe flacco been in the league? name one season where joe flacco didn't win a playoff game.
 

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he still isnt elite.

He will need to have amazing seasons to be an elite QB. In saying that, he is still only 27.
 

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Beyond the black-white shyt. I fukks with Flacco, I always have!! I get into it with people all the time down here because I tell them Flacco>>>Ryan!!
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where have you been?

how many years has joe flacco been in the league? name one season where joe flacco didn't win a playoff game.

You completely dodged the question.

Are you putting Flacco on the same level as actual Elite QBs like Brady/Rodgers/Manning?
 

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Just posted this in another thread on here about Joe Flacco being "elite" now.

Wow, a couple good plays, a few horribly blown defensive assignments, and Torrey Smith's famous push-off and Flacco is an Elite QB!? The reality is he plays on a very talented team and he manages games well under pressure. That's it. He has looked good in some playoff games, but as others mentioned, had that safety not blown his coverage in Denver, the Ravens would have went home then. I know people say stats aren't everything, and clearly they're not, but a lot can be gained from them. In this era, there are certain standards that "Elite" QBs have. In this era, you should be at least completing 62% of your passes for 4,200-4,800 yards (in rare cases, Brees numbers), around 32-40 TDs, and 8-12 picks. Let's look at Flacco's numbers for his career.

08 - 60% 2971 14 12
09 - 63.1% 3613 21 12
10 - 62.6% 3622 25 10
11 - 57.6% 3610 20 12
12 - 59.7% 3817 22 10

I personally pay tons of attention to a QB's completion percentage, and I think it's a very underrated statistic in evaluating QB play. Obviously, minus two years, Flacco wasn't even in the "good" range and never in the "very good" or "great" range. I know Flacco now has a Super Bowl, and I also know he has had some good playoff games, but he's still not "Elite." He's not even VERY good. He is, however, a great game manager on a VERY talented team. I mean, we're talking about an "Elite" QB who's average completion percentage is 60.5%; he's never thrown for more than this year's 3817 yards; and he's never thrown more than 25 TDs. That's just not "Elite" in today's era of football.
 

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█ W.D.Y.D. █;3131672 said:
Flacco is not elite at all.

I don't understand the fascination with labeling QBs off of playoff runs.
Dude is what he's always been a second/third tier QB who's not a game changer but will deliver solid play.

Elite QBs are game changers.

Couldn't agree more with the bolded. Great playoff runs are more so a function of teammates and fortune. If Peyton doesn't fukk up in Denver is he any less of a player? If the 9ers return that safety punt for a TD is he worse?

Let's not go too far in the other direction though. He didn't play solid, he played his ass off. Dude consistently made great throws, didn't make mistakes, and there is no way they win with him not playing as well as he did. He's shown he can flourish with everybody else doing their job for this run. To be elite he's gotta show that he can flourish year in and year out even when the defense and running game are less than stellar. He's certainly better than I thought he would be coming into the year but he didn't morph into Aaron Rodgers.
 

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Off the top of my head(no order)
Ben; Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Ryan

I'm not saying he's wack, but he's a 8/10 qb, just like Eli and Ryan.

lol @ Ryan

IMO after tonight its

1.Rodgers
2.Brady
3.Ben
4.Brees
5.Flacco

Peyton one of the goats but right now Flacco is better...his weak arm is the reason why we beat them

just my opinion tho :manny:
 

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one of the reasons i wanted the Ravens to lose is because I knew we were about to hear some shyt about how Flacco is top 5 or some bullshyt like that and here it is :snoop:

and he has him as better than Peyton manning no less :snoop:

Jesus Christ the man is the SB MVP just leave it at that.
 
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