So is Everyone in Agreement That The Paul George/Shai trade Was The Absolute WORST Trade in NBA History?

[duckbutta]

uhh Im not so sure about that, who in the West looks like they can beat OKC right now?

I'd say any team that has been there and done that (won a chip or made deep playoff runs) could beat a team that hasn't. I'm not saying that the Nuggets, Lakers, or Warriors will beat them, but if they did I wouldn't be shocked.

Would you really be surprised if it's OKC vs Warriors 1st round and Steph, Jimmy, Draymond go in to okc and steal game 1? All 3 of them dudes have been there and done that when it comes to playoffs runs so they not going to flinch and you know Draymond is going to be pulling some fukkery with them young boys (pedo pause ) just like he did against the Kings when he was out here stomping on people chest.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Bradley Beal is probably worse because people said it beforehand.

There’s two types of bad trades, after the fact when it’s all said and done or at the outset

People still believed that they could win something in the clippers and nobody knew that Shai would be the MVP in a few seasons.

With Beal, he had a history of giving zero fukks about anything other than money, and showcased by him sitting comfortably in trash ass Washington and never complaining or requesting a trade and that contract is wild. Plus injuries had already affected his game, having no hunger obviously wouldn’t help changing that

The Beal trade was nonsensical and was a trade for the sake of making one (and was reliant on Booker running PG which was dumb).

But too many people wanted to rescue Beal from DC. It was a situation where it didn’t make sense for DC to hold onto Beal but it didn’t make sense for anyone else to get him.

 

[Jazzy B.]

Naw.

Clippers should have won the chip in 2020 and they would of in real play off conditions.

They would have made the finals in 2021 if Kawhi didn't go down.

 

[CJ]

Still the VC trade for me

 

[Don Homer]

How was it not the trade that got Tatum and Brown to BOS?

They won a chip and have been contending for most of their careers

 

[Primetime]

I'd say any team that has been there and done that (won a chip or made deep playoff runs) could beat a team that hasn't. I'm not saying that the Nuggets, Lakers, or Warriors will beat them, but if they did I wouldn't be shocked.

Would you really be surprised if it's OKC vs Warriors 1st round and Steph, Jimmy, Draymond go in to okc and steal game 1? All 3 of them dudes have been there and done that when it comes to playoffs runs so they not going to flinch and you know Draymond is going to be pulling some fukkery with them young boys (pedo pause ) just like he did against the Kings when he was out here stomping on people chest.

Tbh, winning 1-2 games wouldn't surprise me... but winning the series? Idk. Bc those 3 you mentioned (that would likely have to log 40mpg) are:

• 37 yrs old - their sole reliable scorer
• 36 yrs old - their starting/most reliable "center" at 6'6, and
• 35 yrs old - their hopeful "guard the best perimeter player but also score 25+ a night" guy.

Just about everyone else in their active rotation was either born after 2002... or is Buddy Hields (31 years old... 4 games of playoff exp)... or the leftovers Payton II and Looney who are undersized defenders that don't provide much offense. I foresee more of a MIN vs PHX situation where everyone thought it was another GSW vs SAC... until it very quickly wasn't.

Same with the Lakers and their vast playoff experience that's basically 2.5 guys... one of them being 40.

 

[mastermind]

Maybe not all time bad, but in 1980 the Cavs traded their 1982 first round pick and an injured Butch Lee to the Lakers for Don Ford and the Lakers 1980 first round pick (Chad Kinch).

Ford and Kinch would be out of the NBA by the time the 1982 draft came around and Lee didn’t play another NBA game again after the 1979.

That 1982 pick would be the #1 pick and ended up James Worthy.

 

[MikelArteta]

horrible trade listen to peg leg brehs
you could already see as a rookie shai had it and these nikkas gave it away

 

[Loose]

I'd say any team that has been there and done that (won a chip or made deep playoff runs) could beat a team that hasn't. I'm not saying that the Nuggets, Lakers, or Warriors will beat them, but if they did I wouldn't be shocked.

Would you really be surprised if it's OKC vs Warriors 1st round and Steph, Jimmy, Draymond go in to okc and steal game 1? All 3 of them dudes have been there and done that when it comes to playoffs runs so they not going to flinch and you know Draymond is going to be pulling some fukkery with them young boys (pedo pause ) just like he did against the Kings when he was out here stomping on people chest.

Ironically this sounds similar to the 14-15 warriors when people were seeing what they saw on paper and refused to look at reality. Only team i see as a threat right now is the Celtics for them, others i think could give them tough series but that okc is honestly putting up historic numberd at this point. The rate they turn teams over the defensive metrics at rim, the way they disguise zones and man coverage is almost nfl like. Not many have the defenders on the perimeter or the interior to contain them. Crazy part is they have looked checked out right now, I think people are seriously underrating the thunder. Some of the runs they go on when they just turn it up defensively is some of the best I ever seen. Game goes from down 4 to up 25 in 3 minutes. They don't really over rely on 3pters either. It's just a very historic defense with smothering perimeter defenders and great interior defense.

 

[GoldenGlove]

I'd say any team that has been there and done that (won a chip or made deep playoff runs) could beat a team that hasn't. I'm not saying that the Nuggets, Lakers, or Warriors will beat them, but if they did I wouldn't be shocked.

Would you really be surprised if it's OKC vs Warriors 1st round and Steph, Jimmy, Draymond go in to okc and steal game 1? All 3 of them dudes have been there and done that when it comes to playoffs runs so they not going to flinch and you know Draymond is going to be pulling some fukkery with them young boys (pedo pause ) just like he did against the Kings when he was out here stomping on people chest.

This sounds like wishful thinking

 

[QuintessentialBM]

It's trending towards the worst.

Presti is the smartest GM in the NBA, arguably in sports. He understand trends in player habits and performance in relation to their value; this is why most of his moves hit. This is a skill most GM's in the NBA don't have because they stay getting fleeced, especially by Presti.

He understood that PG13, although he was a perennial all-star and all-NBA throughout his career, he would generally disappear come playoff time. Two things worked in his favor: PG13 was coming off his best year ever since his injury AND he requested the trade to a LA team. This is how he SOLD the deal to get everything he wanted from the Clippers.

The Clippers gave up WAY TOO MUCH to get PG13 regardless of what Kahwi said or would have done. If I were in this situation, you can either get the players OR the picks, but not both. Given PG13's track record, I wouldn't have sent SGA; take Gallinari (an expiring contract and 2-3 picks. This is where they played themselves.

 

[Taadow]

It's not the worst trade of all time

Hornets traded Kobe to LA



Bucks also traded Dirk for Tractor Traylor lol

I specifically thought of these two trades when I read the title.

This ain’t even the worst trade involving The Clippers.

 

[duckbutta]

It's trending towards the worst.

Presti is the smartest GM in the NBA, arguably in sports. He understand trends in player habits and performance in relation to their value; this is why most of his moves hit. This is a skill most GM's in the NBA don't have because they stay getting fleeced, especially by Presti.

He understood that PG13, although he was a perennial all-star and all-NBA throughout his career, he would generally disappear come playoff time. Two things worked in his favor: PG13 was coming off his best year ever since his injury AND he requested the trade to a LA team. This is how he SOLD the deal to get everything he wanted from the Clippers.

The Clippers gave up WAY TOO MUCH to get PG13 regardless of what Kahwi said or would have done. If I were in this situation, you can either get the players OR the picks, but not both. Given PG13's track record, I wouldn't have sent SGA; take Gallinari (an expiring contract and 2-3 picks. This is where they played themselves.

Is that why he had 3 MVP first ballot HOF players on one team in their prime and failed to win even one championship? Because he is so smart?

Mind blowing to me how someone who has never built a championship team can be crowned the smartest person in the nba at building teams.

Presti is "the smartest GM in the nba" the same way Morey is "the smartest GM in the nba."

 

[Loose]

Is that why he had 3 MVP first ballot HOF players on one team in their prime and failed to win even one championship? Because he is so smart?

That's nba cba issue not gm scouting issue

Mind blowing to me how someone who has never built a championship team can be crowned the smartest person in the nba at building teams.

Presti is "the smartest GM in the nba" the same way Morey is "the smartest GM in the nba."

Terrible comparison

 

[Damnshow]

Is that why he had 3 MVP first ballot HOF players on one team in their prime and failed to win even one championship? Because he is so smart?

Mind blowing to me how someone who has never built a championship team can be crowned the smartest person in the nba at building teams.

Presti is "the smartest GM in the nba" the same way Morey is "the smartest GM in the nba."

Presti is way better than Morey and you know it. Morey is a moron who thought just spamming threes and doing layups in Houston will win them a championship and that right there cost them the series against Warriors when they refused to try and shoot some two pointers while they were missing everything from 3.

While I also think Presti gets overrated by some fans, he's got some excuses as well like clay bennett not paying James Harden a bigger contract and Presti being forced to trade him for an inferior return.

Presti at least hasn't handicapped his team future with ridiculous contracts. Morey has done that in Philly like a muthafukka. Also it's hard building super team in bum ass Oklahoma