So it begins- Wendy's To Switch To Self Ordering and Automation To Avoid $15/hr Wage hike

[Carlos Huerta]

The responses in here

If it were up to most of you, the US would never have the internet, smartphones, E-Z passes, or anything that ever automated a previously human driven action. After all, people used to do those jobs before, right?

 

[Carlos Huerta]

I wonder if all the self-proclaimed economics experts who decry a higher minimum wage are curious as to why people manage to have higher minimum wages, better social safety nets, and an overall better median standard of living in practically every single wealthy developed country than ours.

We have the advantage of more natural resources than anyone.
We have the advantage of more access to ocean trading routes than anyone.
We have the advantage of virtual invulnerability to domestic war.
We have the advantage of relatively low population density.
We have the advantage of far more power in the global marketplace than anyone.

But somehow with all those advantages, we can't offer the standard of living to poor/working class people that's been guaranteed for decades now in Australia, New Zealand, UK, Canada, Switzerland, Germany, Ireland, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, etc.?

The answer is simple - the US has far more entitlements than those countries.

 

[Numpsay]

$15 maybe a bit much for a fast food worker, but IMO there is no excuse for someone to have a job and not be paid a "living" wage by their employer. Not sure how anyone can support someone making 15k a year working full time.

 

[peppe]

funny how all these people took to the streets and protested when the CEO's were just in boardrooms discussing.

These nuccas rather have $15 >>> $10 how about we give them $0 >>>>$10

Yeah these mufakkas make a shyt ton of money but how would you cope with long hours, managing a goddamn fortune 500 company. Your decisions can litterly destroy a company if your incompetent.

I have worked in warehouses/factory where people couldn't even handle that kind of stress, like really this is the most repetitive work and you can't deal with stress.

fukk outta here with that $15, people should aspire to do better and learn a trade or go to college then think welp there is always mikky D.

 

[meth68]

its funny people like using Facebook in Apple in examples in comparison to got damn fast food companies. Silicon Valley is full of people with degrees from the best universities on earth, and cats who are straight geniuses and even then those companies dont pay crazy in perspective of the nature of the work. Apple pays 110k but 110k in Cali translates to say 70k in ATL (which is still good) but then when you factor in you are working 60+ hr weeks under insane stress it def is not the same.

lol its a reason most of you dont run businesses I see.

That is my whole point of my post..

I do run a business, I also realize there you must profit to stay in business, you got people in here saying they dont care about profits? Really.... well thats interesting, I wonder if they have that same attitude if they ever start their own company.

My reasoning behind mentioning big corporate companies is they are next to impossible to get into and a lot of them start you at 30-35k a year. For example, there is an entry level GPS testing position for BMW Corporate is starting at $17hr, which requires degrees and knowing people to even get in for an interview which your competing with a dozen people who are more than likely worth more then 2-3x that starting price but they just want to get in as a career move for future advancement.. Lets compare this to the expectations and requirements to get a job at McDonalds which is $2 less an hour.

Everyone just assumes its like oh fukk this lets make it $15... well there is profits to be considered, in the end they ARE providing jobs, is everyone happy there? No, is everyone UNhappy? No... What is a better solution, make them go bankrupt and close up shop and everyone gets fired?

 

[thirdeye]

Ohh yea? Every time I pass chik fil lay or even go there myself the lines are packed. I'm not saying your wrong, I haven't looked at the numbers or any surveys; but around my area the story says other wise

I live in Canada so I don't know how diff it is up here but more folks are into those designer burger places. I mean McDonald's is still popular but sales are deceasing year by year.

 

[Carlos Huerta]

$15 maybe a bit much for a fast food worker, but IMO there is no excuse for someone to have a job and not be paid a "living" wage by their employer. Not sure how anyone can support someone making 15k a year working full time.

No one has to do that job. Are you a socialist?

 

[PortCityProphet]

None of what you said proves 15 is a lot

It's showing how much Americans really make. Thus saying 15 is a lot for what they're doing.

 

[CrimsonTider]

It's showing how much Americans really make. Thus saying 15 is a lot for what they're doing.

Doing what? Is this how you normally debate something?

 

[Nigerianwonder]

Of course you dont care if they dont profit you dont own one. Its simple they hold the keys... You ask for a ridiculous amount of money and they replace you with a touch screen kiosk. Let me know how big companies like Apple corp, microsoft and google treat your resumes. I am sure they will let you walk right into a 40k+ job... Fact is fast food restaurants are an easy place to walk in and get a job, its the bottom of the barrel money wise for a reason, we need to stop comparing it as a career move or some amazing company to work for and flourish, thats not what they are there for. You can keep arguing all you want but your points are invalid as soon as you say you dont care about their profit, this isn't a charity case...

The goverment needing to subsidize the fast food companies full time workforce with our tax dollars through welfare is what's charity. Apparently you dont understand the concept of a living wage. Doesnt matter what you THINK a job should be for.. anyone working fulltime 40+ hours a week should be able to live without government assistance.

Companies do not have a right to exist forever and always make profit. If they cant compete they fail. Blockbuster video aint around no more. They used to be on every corner. Same with circuit city etc..
So yes.. i dont care about their profit. Thats on them to figure out. Some will some wont.. some will suceed some will fail. I dont care if they bring in kiosk.. if thats what the feel they need to do to compete then so be it... but they risk public backlash and that decision could hurt them more if people choose not to support them since other fast food companied have already figured out how to pay higher wages and make high profit such as in and out burger.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Breh, I work with offshore Indians also, of course they are going to be paid less since their cost of living is a lot cheaper. But the people they send from the companies to work onsite with us, make way more than we do.

The fact of the matter is they are eating, there's a reason why so many of them are in the tech field. people saying they are being Low balled, don't even see how they are taking over the game.

Also a reason why I named Microsoft is because they are more than just windows or office. They are also a consulting company that do a lot of work with smaller companies( we have people here from Microsoft ), so don't be surprised when the CEO open up the doors for more of his people . The hiring here got so bad( they kept hiring their own ). HR had to step in. One of the reasons why I think I'm here.

lol I`m in IT bro I already know the deal, at the end of the day many asians get low balled on sure eternal contractor steeze, but then the few who transition into full time employees put on the next man and so on, so they have the industry on smash. Cant even hate on them. And of course the cats who go to India to train make a ton of bread lol because they are pretty much utilizing 2-3 Indian contracts over seas for the cost of 1 US employee, so its nothing to pay the cat who has to train them a little more when the company is still saving millions.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The answer is simple - the US has far more entitlements than those countries.

You're trolling, right?

$15 maybe a bit much for a fast food worker, but IMO there is no excuse for someone to have a job and not be paid a "living" wage by their employer. Not sure how anyone can support someone making 15k a year working full time.

Exactly. The basic floor for wages should be that they are a living wage. When an employer purposely pays an employee less than they need to support their family in the wealthiest country in the world, just because employers have so much control over the job market that "the market can bear it", that's fukking abuse. Doesn't anyone here know what the job market was like in the early 1900s, when rural folk were getting sharecropped and city folk were working slave-labor jobs in the factories where someone died every other day? The ONLY thing in America that's standing between then and now is government regulation of the industry. This whole "let the market decide wages" shyt is inhumane and literally works nowhere else in the world, but fat cat corporate pigs keep wanting to push it here in 'Merica.

No one has to do that job. Are you a socialist?

Okay, seriously. Go back to college and learn what the word "socialist" means. It obviously doesn't mean "pays a living wage".

(Unless you're just trolling again. If so, carry on.)

Yeah these mufakkas make a shyt ton of money but how would you cope with long hours, managing a goddamn fortune 500 company. Your decisions can litterly destroy a company if your incompetent.

And the guys that destroy companies just end up with a giant golden parachute and a cushy job somewhere else...because the only reason that many of them were in that position in the first place was connections, not competency. The most competent workers in most corporations are usually employers or occasionally large-scale project managers. High-level management in almost everything other than tech startups is still a good-old boys gang where who you know is far more important than what you know.

fukk outta here with that $15, people should aspire to do better and learn a trade or go to college then think welp there is always mikky D.

That's great advice for people with the leeway in life to do that.

But if your family situation is such that you already are working long hours and can still barely make ends meet, how the hell are you going to get the extra time to add an entire additional high-level, time-consuming task to that life?

 

[Numpsay]

No one has to do that job. Are you a socialist?

Its a service industry job, someone has to do it, and they don't deserve to get paid peanuts for doing so.

 

[PortCityProphet]

Doing what? Is this how you normally debate something?

Microwaving burgers the thing fast food workers do. What the hell else would I be talking about?

 

[Carlos Huerta]

Its a service industry job, someone has to do it, and they don't deserve to get paid peanuts for doing so.

there's no such thing as "deserve" in business you clown