Dr. Narcisse
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Cam's had about 4 dropped passes turn into ints.
He's had about 5 or 6 dropped TD passes (KB has like 4 of them)
He's had about 5 or 6 dropped TD passes (KB has like 4 of them)
So the last 7 games, Cam Newton has...
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So Cam turning the ball over as much as he has this season doesn't put his defense in compromising positions? You got it, man.
You keep harping on the Buffalo thing, but please tell me what was SO much better about Austin Davis' situation than Cam's that would explain their stats being similar yet Davis getting benched and no one batted an eye. Do the Rams have some kind of top secret QB coach or OC that I don't know about that had him putting up stats comparable to Cam's despite the talent around him being just as bad? Rams are 24th in scoring defense btw, so it's not like he's the beneficiary of the circumstances you attributed to Orton's success.
Are you REALLY comparing Jake Long to Byron Bell who LEADS the NFL in giving up THIRTY qb pressures compared to Jake Longs 13?
Is that what you're doing?
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Brady is a shyt deep passer. This idea that he's a qb for all systems is a complete lie and can be argued for another day.Brady's skills would've made him succeed in any system/team you put him in. The things I listed is what separates him from most QBs in history...can't teach most of that.
This 'system' thing is bullshyt btw. I mean after the 'air it out' Moss/ 5000 yds era, I thought we would be done with this "dink and dunk QB" narrative.
YOU equated dink and dunk to something negative...I never called him that. Stop getting salty over your own self created negatives tied to Brady. Brady's biggest strength is what he does pre snap
I'm not the one cherry picking individual players and pretending that they are the only ones getting treated a certain way
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So rookies and vets are a bad combo now? 
Not like he passed to ball to Steve when he was there
Not like he passed to ball to Steve when he was there
NYC Rebel
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I talked about treatment? Where in what I posted in my initial post??
I personally don't care how he's treated. I'll say any qb in that position is set up to fail
HacksawJimThuggin
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Bro, the hair splitting is out of control. They both suck. One sucks more. Cam should be putting better numbers than an undrafted 2nd year, 3rd string QB with limited talent around him. How is that even debatable?
"Bu but Austin Davis put up similar numbers to Cam because his LT wasn't AS bad" come on, man. You're better than that.
I never said it was YOU specifically, but read through this thread, and other online posts about dude and it would almost seem like Cam was being treated worse than other dudes in the same class as him because he's a certain color.I talked about treatment? Where in what I posted in my initial post??
I personally don't care how he's treated. I'll say any qb in that position is set up to fail
don't pretend like there isn't an agenda going on here
Can't wait for him to leave. Matt Ryan had his run and couldnt ever get it done. I think its time for the hometown kid to go back to Atlanta and make fans embrace that team again. I would like to see him in a Falcons jersey and this is coming from someone who is strongly opposed to athletes playing in their home towns. He's wasted in Carolina.
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Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
Keep it football PLEASE. I'm interested to see what football reasons (ie excuses) you can make for this dude being a mediocre QB. Please enlighten me
Field Marshall Bradley
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How you just gonna ignore scheming and coaching.......You gon compare that uptempo dink and dunk shyt that do in buffalo to that 19th century Otto Graham shyt Shula puts on the field....
Why do yall think you can bring up numbers in vacuum like that to make a point...shyt is ridiculous and lazy.....
Its like saying I smashed a 100 bishes this year, but all of em looked like precious.....
Field Marshall Bradley
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Are you REALLY comparing Jake Long to Byron Bell who LEADS the NFL in giving up THIRTY qb pressures compared to Jake Longs 13?
Is that what you're doing?
Wasn't gonna even reply to that.....Cause anybody that's seen them play, turnstyle or not, Jake would have been an upgrade at Left tackle....
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HacksawJimThuggin
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How you just gonna ignore scheming and coaching.......You gon compare that uptempo dink and dunk shyt that do in buffalo to that 19th century Otto Graham shyt Shula puts on the field....
Why do yall think you can bring up numbers in vacuum like that to make a point...shyt is ridiculous and lazy.....
Its like saying I smashed a 100 bishes this year, but all of em looked like precious.....
So are we blaming his scheme, his weapons, his defense...? All 3? Basically just anyone BUT Cam, right? Got it.
Field Marshall Bradley
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You can be dense and obtuse all day....And if you want to be on some nikka hating shyt and give 100% of the blame to CAM, that's fine...But your logic is fugazi..
Bringing up Austin Davis like his arm aint Chad Pennington status.....
Fisher a fraud anyway