So Tidal really is a failure...

[Midrash]

The problem is that the freemium music subscription makes no economic sense so I can understand why they created Tidal. Pandora and Spotify are destroying sales and a lot of niche genres like Jazz are seeing huge drops in their sales due to streaming. Infact they were getting so little, a lot of them started pulling their music and saw their sales increase.

They want to get consumers to start back paying for music while giving artist their dues. Music isn't being supported like it was in the past which is making it a lot harder to musicians to make a living. It's not true that all of these artist out here are eating good off of tour money or are rich. A lot of them are stunting and if you aren't a big artist, you're not going to be making much money. Some bands/musicians will pull in the low six figures but will have expenses exceeding that meaning that they lost money touring.

Spotify needs to die and Tidal can do it if it plays its cards right. Taylor Swift pulled her shyt from Spotify for a reason because she's a hustler and not as financially ignorant as a lot of musicians are.

 

[GzUp]

What is tidal?

 

[Squirtle]

Yo, you guys know that everytime you start rooting for Jay, Drake, or whomever to fail they end up winning right? If I was a coli hater I would stop posting about this shyt. This is like when you guys were laughing at the On the Run Tour flopping only for it to make 100 milion.

Ol score keeping ass Nikka

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

N

Exactly.

If Em was behind Tidal, there'd be a 20 page thread about how awesome it is.

No it would be corner if eminem was behind it and there would be a 20 page thread of shyt talkiNg, culture vulture accusations, and whatnot. Shyt...I think shade 45 is corny cause of him.

 

[WEKetchum]

A bit premature to call it a failure this early. I am curious how the Beats music app is doing. I have Spotify Premium and am very happy with it.

Spotify and Pandora are in top five Apple apps right now, Beats is in top 20

 

[WEKetchum]

Like Jay didn't stand behind racist ass Barney's who called the cops on a black kid lawfully buying a belt.

Still funny how this was interpreted as him "standing behind" Barney's. Before the racial profiling incident, Barney's was giving like 25% of the collection to the fund for underprivileged kids to go to college. After they were exposed for the racial profiling, Jay Z more or less coerced them into giving 100% of the proceeds instead. So while some people said Jay Z sold out, what he really did was make Barney's completely waste all of their money spent on making the collection and donate $1 million for kids who need it. He doesn't get that deal with another store because no other store was in a position where they had to give away all of the money they would have made from it

 

[Nostalgic]

What is tidal?

Spotify with Jay-z's name attached to it.....

 

[GzUp]

Spotify is a website where u can listen to free music right?

 

[Nostalgic]

Spotify is a website where u can listen to free music right?

Yes, It's like Pandora.

I'm sure you've heard of that right?

 

[WEKetchum]

Jay-z was a fool to think he was gonna take down a giant.

Sad thing is that Tidal wouldn't have to take down Spotify to be successful, same way that Burger King doesn't have to outsell McDonald's to be successful All Tidal had to do is not fukk up early, and prove itself over time. The streaming music audience is going to just keep on expanding over the next few years, so there's going to be enough money in it for more than one product to eat over time. But with how bad their first impression is, it may be too late to recover at this point unless they make huge changes

 

[GzUp]

Yes, It's like Pandora.

I'm sure you've heard of that right?

Ya I've heard of pandora.

Why couldn't tidal be succesfull like the rest, was it cuz hr was trying to charge?

 

[Nostalgic]

Ya I've heard of pandora.

Why couldn't tidal be succesfull like the rest, was it cuz hr was trying to charge?

Bad marketing....And Tidal charging people for the same thing Spotify and Pandroa is already doing for Free.

 

[Henri Christophe]

The problem is that the freemium music subscription makes no economic sense so I can understand why they created Tidal. Pandora and Spotify are destroying sales and a lot of niche genres like Jazz are seeing huge drops in their sales due to streaming. Infact they were getting so little, a lot of them started pulling their music and saw their sales increase.

They want to get consumers to start back paying for music while giving artist their dues. Music isn't being supported like it was in the past which is making it a lot harder to musicians to make a living. It's not true that all of these artist out here are eating good off of tour money or are rich. A lot of them are stunting and if you aren't a big artist, you're not going to be making much money. Some bands/musicians will pull in the low six figures but will have expenses exceeding that meaning that they lost money touring.

Spotify needs to die and Tidal can do it if it plays its cards right. Taylor Swift pulled her shyt from Spotify for a reason because she's a hustler and not as financially ignorant as a lot of musicians are.

Gospel.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

The problem is that the freemium music subscription makes no economic sense so I can understand why they created Tidal. Pandora and Spotify are destroying sales and a lot of niche genres like Jazz are seeing huge drops in their sales due to streaming. Infact they were getting so little, a lot of them started pulling their music and saw their sales increase.

They want to get consumers to start back paying for music while giving artist their dues. Music isn't being supported like it was in the past which is making it a lot harder to musicians to make a living. It's not true that all of these artist out here are eating good off of tour money or are rich. A lot of them are stunting and if you aren't a big artist, you're not going to be making much money. Some bands/musicians will pull in the low six figures but will have expenses exceeding that meaning that they lost money touring.

Spotify needs to die and Tidal can do it if it plays its cards right. Taylor Swift pulled her shyt from Spotify for a reason because she's a hustler and not as financially ignorant as a lot of musicians are.

a few things.

1. Musicians have more ways to make a living because of the internet....social media,internet radio, digital music stores etc.

Gucci Mane has been in prison since 2013, and he's still making money off his music.

2. Taylor swift is a brand, she took her music off Spotify, because it cuts into how much her fans will consume...not cause she's a "hustler" or because shes some financial savant.

3. Being a musician is a job, it's not license to be lazy and not work just cause you make music...

4. Spotify/Pandora is one of the reasons some of these artists get fans/album sales, nobody wants to pay money JUST to find out if they like artist.... There are musicians that look into the streaming metrics.... to figure out where they should tour.

the people who pay for those streaming services, already buy music.

5. the reason why Tidal was destined to fail....Is because there was no real plan other than " Hey, I'm Jay Z... buy this cause i say to"

 

[WEKetchum]

The problem is that the freemium music subscription makes no economic sense so I can understand why they created Tidal. Pandora and Spotify are destroying sales and a lot of niche genres like Jazz are seeing huge drops in their sales due to streaming. Infact they were getting so little, a lot of them started pulling their music and saw their sales increase.

Yeah, and I think I read somewhere that Spotify has five million paying subscribers. Beats just made the top 20 revenue generating apps in Apple too, if I'm not mistaken. People are willing to pay, and I think it'll stay that way. The streaming market is only growing. Some people are going to be willing to pay for no ads, more mobile control, etc.

They want to get consumers to start back paying for music while giving artist their dues. Music isn't being supported like it was in the past which is making it a lot harder to musicians to make a living. It's not true that all of these artist out here are eating good off of tour money or are rich. A lot of them are stunting and if you aren't a big artist, you're not going to be making much money. Some bands/musicians will pull in the low six figures but will have expenses exceeding that meaning that they lost money touring.

Spotify needs to die and Tidal can do it if it plays its cards right. Taylor Swift pulled her shyt from Spotify for a reason because she's a hustler and not as financially ignorant as a lot of musicians are.

Yeah that was Taylor Swift's issue. They apparently wanted it to only be available for the paying Spotify customers, not the free users. Spotify either wouldn't allow it or couldn't set that up, so she dipped. And that's why her music is on Tidal now; she's not completely against streaming, just against free streaming. Spotify's not going to die though, regardless of how Tidal does. Streaming is the future and Spotify has too much of a lead to just die off