So what exactly is that whole "I never heard him get played in the hood" arguement supposed to mean?

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Why don't rap fans just treat rap like we do movies. There are classic films that you've seen once and you recognize it as a classic, but then there are popcorn movies that you can rewatch over and over, but that popcorn movie clearly isn't a masterpiece its just entertaining. This is how rap is to me. There are certain albums that are classics but I can't listen to them over and over for various reasons (too emotional, too angry, i have to pay way too much attention to listen to it, etc...).
 

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hip hop is so mainstream right now, it's hard to have the hood argument unless you're talking about a new artist and judging whether or not they're accepted. it's almost chicken/egg like too now, because to have success, you might not have to be back by the hood but on the same side a way to measure your success is through the "hood backing" idea

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Thread is kinda all over the place.

9 times out of 10 "I never heard him in the hood" is short hand for "I think this rapper is getting more attention than he deserves so I'm going to derail that". Because usually "it don't get play in the hood" means "it doesn't get play in my small circle of friends in this 2 block radius we hang out in".

Which is fine but once people start trying to argue the relevance of that, it's a problem.

Having said that, "the hood" did make or break songs back in the day. But then people are arguing what "the hood" means so :manny:

If you're talking about, mostly/totally black inner city....and/or whatever other factors (poverty, section 8, etc.)....virtually anything from De La Soul to The Geto Boys had a run "in the hood" prior to anybody giving a fukk if they sold records, or blew up.

That's why this new era of "let's track how often an artist farts and what their hourly sales are" is so puzzling to me.

Anyway, there's a lot of factors at play here.

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Jay-Z is a God out here In Brooklyn, dude is the definition of "if i made it you can too". and i've heard his music being played alot around my way too.
 

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Who cares about the hood also, is there any good that comes from the hood? What value does the hood hold?

The "hood" isn't just one thing/way of living/experience. The problem is that many people wrongly equate the hood with being all negatives when most people in the hood are just "regular" people who aren't necessarily taking part in anything negative.


Why is "hood" the end all be all in hiphop etc urban culture? Like the hood is a mecca of trill, solid street

:dwillhuh:HipHop was born in the hood






So can this arguement be spun into "i never heard him played in the suburbs" wouldn't that guage success better?
that's more of a sign of what people not born into the climate that produced hiphop, like, and to many, from a purists standpoint, noone cares about them.
 

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The "hood" isn't just one thing/way of living/experience. The problem is that many people wrongly equate the hood with being all negatives when most people in the hood are just "regular" people who aren't necessarily taking part in anything negative.




:dwillhuh:HipHop was born in the hood







that's more of a sign of what people not born into the climate that produced hiphop, like, and to many, from a purists standpoint, noone cares about them.

I agree the "hood" is mostly good
People and working families or older people who were in the neighborhood before the changes
 

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Most the type people who use that argument are the types who never left their city for more than a day and think the hood is the whole world. I

Like a rapper cares wether the hood is bumping his shyt or not when he can still sell out shows in his city, has a global fan bases & sell 100k+.

All that "the hood ain't bumping your shyt" in reality doesn't matter to a rappers success.


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