SPIN: HAS THE BLACK MAN BECOME COMFORTABLE WITH FAILURE.

[cleanface coney]

I feel for ya boy breh. As a people we have the odds set against us from jump street. Has he tried applying for financial aid. There are may scholarships out there. If he from florida they got the Bright futures program. I paid for school my own damn sel too at 1st. He can also join the military and do 4 and get out and get some school money. Not saying he should but that's an option.

I did a google search and found this website. He gone have to go out there and fund his education bc again the odds are set against him so he has to fight against it.

https://www.scholarshipprograms.org/

damn bro this some real shyt right here imma text him this website

last time i seen him he was talkin about takin the asvab but i dont want him to join the military as his last resort
if you gone join the military i think you should wanna join otherwise your experience might be fukked up if you feel liek you gotta join

 

[Jone2three45]

This is an issue where you have to research and look at every angle possible to answer that question.

But I will just say this,
The way society is put together,
You are considered the man of the house if you pay the bills and put food on the table.
Unfortunately you know how hyper-masculine we black folks are.

 

[marcuz]

I am not surprised that this is such a calm discussion.

i'm not either. there's only ruckus when you critique black women.

 

[Jone2three45]

This thread is kind of dry.
I actually think that this thread could turn out to be benifitial to us with the right conversation and topic.

 

[SouthernBelle]

i'm not either. there's only ruckus when you critique black women.

No. This thread is simply evidence that many black men are not ready to have a conversation about how messed a lot of yall are. Someone actually quoted a guy from another thread to literally made that claim.

It's also not a ruckus because the black women on this board can offer critique without bashing all black men and being inflammatory. People attack generalizing and inflammatory arguments (that is my only issue with people like Rush Limbaugh and Tommy Sotomayor), but you are an inflammatory person yourself so I'm sure you love both of those men.

 

[Ain't That Something]

This thread is kind of dry.
I actually think that this thread could turn out to be benifitial to us with the right conversation and topic.

Lead it that way breh. It's open for discussion my nigg.

 

[Silky Johnson]

No. This thread is simply evidence that many black men are not ready to have a conversation about how messed a lot of yall are. Someone actually quoted a guy from another thread to literally made that claim.

It's also not a ruckus because the black women on this board can offer critique without bashing all black men and being inflammatory. People attack generalizing and inflammatory arguments (that is my only issue with people like Rush Limbaugh and Tommy Sotomayor), but you are an inflammatory person yourself so I'm sure you love both of those men.

 

[SouthernBelle]

What? I qualified my statement. There are statistics for black men just like there are statistics for black women. I can pull them, but my point is not to try and dog and bash black men. However, I can do it if that's what you really want.

 

[Justice]

Nah, but lacking the confidence to go after what you want and succeed definitely makes some people complacent with mediocrity. Things can always be better but you have to believe that your hard work will be worth it in the end.

 

[Ain't That Something]

No. This thread is simply evidence that many black men are not ready to have a conversation about how messed a lot of yall are. Someone actually quoted a guy from another thread to literally made that claim.

It's also not a ruckus because the black women on this board can offer critique without bashing all black men and being inflammatory. People attack generalizing and inflammatory arguments (that is my only issue with people like Rush Limbaugh and Tommy Sotomayor), but you are an inflammatory person yourself so I'm sure you love both of those men.

What exactly did you want the outcome of this thread to be a bunch of nikkas using shaming tactics to degrade one another

 

[Silky Johnson]

What? I qualified my statement. There are statistics for black men just like there are statistics for black women. I can pull them, but my point is not to try and dog and bash black men. However, I can do it if that's what you really want.

Statistics without context don't mean anything. There are stats that show how "fukked up" black men are that show how many are in jail, lack advanced degrees, etc but if you're not ready to talk about all of the socioeconomic issues that slant the stats and not look at numbers in a vacuum it's a waste of time.

Even if you do that, you'll have the self-hating moon crickets talkin bout "Stop making excuses for these hood rats"

 

[Ain't That Something]

Statistics without context don't mean anything. There are stats that show how "fukked up" black men are that show how many are in jail, lack advanced degrees, etc but if you're not ready to talk about all of the socioeconomic issues that slant the stats and not look at numbers in a vacuum it's a waste of time.

Even if you do that, you'll have the self-hating moon crickets talkin bout "Stop making excuses for these hood rats"

My question is doesn't black women face these same socioeconomic forces yet they are succeeding ahead of us. Not trying to make this thread bout black women. This is bout us and doing better breh.

 

[cleanface coney]

Nah, but lacking the confidence to go after what you want and succeed definitely makes some people complacent with mediocrity. Things can always be better but you have to believe that your hard work will be worth it in the end.

exactly man good fukkin pst

this goes back to what i was sayin alot of these lil dudes dont hear success stories alot.

people that have made it out from bad situations alot of the time never come back and pass on that motivated
its crazy hwo society actually thinks these dudes wanna be violent and out here sellin drugs
its not the case its jus that for some reason that seems to give them the most explicit description of making it in that type of lifestyle

if business owners was makin rap songs and all we seen on tv was that
and those were the images being put out
alot of these dudes would gravitate towards that.
after all most people just wanna live comfortably and have some money saved up...goes back to me sayin alot of these problems are economic

and one of the keys to success is motivation

 

[cleanface coney]

My question is doesn't black women face these same socioeconomic forces yet they are succeeding ahead of us. Not trying to make this thread bout black women. This is bout us and doing better breh.

black women are ahead because like women in general they are more mature than us. only difference is they get caught up with their emotions

go to any black college campus and they outnumber us by far
go to any technical,kaplan,everest college and its full of black women tryint o better themselves

lol these nikkas actually diss women for goin to nursing school
how fukkin dumb is that?

also yall diss the hood girls but i see wayyyyyyy more of them gettin their life together compared to a black dude who made mistakes and are tryin to make up for it

its something wrong with society where the man is pointin the finger at the woman...no community has done that that wasnt ran by fakkits

 

[SouthernBelle]

What exactly did you want the outcome of this thread to be a bunch of nikkas using shaming tactics to degrade one another

First and foremost. I actually contributed to this thread in a thoughtful way. I even said in a post after the one that you just quoted that posting a bunch of negative stats regarding black men would be pointless so don't come at me with bull when I am actually trying to have a productive conversation.

I only had this response that you quote because @marcuz came it me with bull about women not being able to accept criticism. This thread is dry as fukk because the same loud ass people talking about black men can accept criticism don't even want to participate. I thought those same loud mouths would at least have a damn response but they are avoiding this shyt like the plague.

No where have I degraded anyone or asked to degrade anyone so fukk you and this thread.