SPIN: If you're NOT prepared to DISCIPLINE your children with THIS ITEM should you even be having kids at all?

[The Guru]

Everybody that keeps using getting whoppings as a reason for adult failure sounds dumb.

There are so many things that go into raising a child and why they turn out the way they turn out. This argument falls apart when you point out the many people who got whoppings as children that are successful in their adult lives. It also falls apart when you point out the people that did not get whoppings who are failures in life. Things affect every child differently.

Too many people like to scapegoat their parents as the reason they ain't shiit in life. Sometimes, just sometimes, people are just destined to be bums no matter what.

Let's say we were too look up stats on people who end up failing. Say, drop out of high school, end up in jail, end up hurting other people Do you think the percentage of people who were beaten a lot is higher or lower than average? It's not the end all be all but it does not help.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Nah that wasn't your point. You made it seem like there was a correlation to getting whipped and going to prison.

The point went over your head then. A belt didn't keep them folks outta jail. They're not in there because they got whooped.

 

[⠀⠀⠀]

the belt causes more harm than good

 

[KingHenrythe14th]

My people still enslaved. And keep passing on that trauma to each generation under the guise of "discipline".

many Asian, middle eastern and Eastern Europe cultures still practice this form of discipline. Not saying I’m for it or against it, but this is not an exclusively black thing.

 

[315]

I never got whooped, came out pretty good

 

[xXOGLEGENDXx]

Let's say we were too look up stats on people who end up failing. Say, drop out of high school, end up in jail, end up hurting other people Do you think the percentage of people who were beaten a lot is higher or lower than average? It's not the end all be all but it does not help.

Lets say you look up stats on people who end up succeeding. Say graduate college and end up with a good job, and loving their families. Do you think the percentage of people who were beaten a lot is higher or lower than average?

This argument can always go both ways. There are plenty of highly successful people who credit their parent's discipline as the reason they are able to make it to where they are.

 

[Crayola Coyote]

All the white posters that refer to their parents as their first names disagree

 

[Ashley Banks]

I used to get slapped and sent to my room LMAO my parents weren’t really belt people. And look at me, I’m an angel

 

[karim]

Kids aint gonna be unruly in class when they know THIS

is potentially waiting for them at home


fukk all that "talking" shyt

If I understand correctly, you take enjoyment out of beating your kids with a belt. What's your name and address, so I can call CPS?

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

Listen, let’s not advocate beating children.

Let’s just advocate having disciplined children.

The way I see it, if you won’t, the state will.

This is a factor everyone seems to not accept/think about.

 

[Wildin]

Kid might legit make it to the pros because of that strict upbringing.

Does he just have skills or is he actually talented? Skills are learned. Anyone can learn a skill. Kids with varying degrees of skill compete against each other all the time. Now if he's talented that's what will make him standout. You can't beat talent into a kid. All that just to say he might just be a talented kid with strict parents. Particularly because there's plenty of kids who get the piss beat out of them for coming home with an A minus or a B+, they may fare well in their classes but they aren't talented.

 

[Jazzy B.]

If I understand correctly, you take enjoyment out of beating your kids with a belt. What's your name and address, so I can call CPS?

This isn't about enjoying anything.

It's about having a STRONG deterrent that the child is aware of which keeps them unruly.

 

[Wildin]

just talk to em with the pistol resting on the table pointed in their direction. make sure they can see the bullets in each chamber of the revolver.

That'll work, until they want to be a leader amongst their friends or be tough when someone tries to punk them, then they do the same thing (point a gun at them) and it goes off.

 

[O.Red]

My people still enslaved. And keep passing on that trauma to each generation under the guise of "discipline".

It's no wonder our conflict resolution skills are awful

 

[Wildin]

The way I see it, if you won’t, the state will.

The state's won't do shyt but take your kids and literally make money off them. There's literally budgeting in your state for state wards. Every child that is a ward of the state literally has a price tag, and they will go to foster parents who literally get paid to house them. Regardless of their disciplinary status. It don't matter whether they pass or fail in school, literally every day that child is a state ward he's generating money for the state. There's no criteria from which a child that is a ward of the state loses funding. Foster parents could lose their ability to foster, agencies could be shut down, when that happens the child still remains in custody of the state and they are transferred to another agency or foster parent until either the parents get right or they age out.