Stevie Wonder defends Bruno Mars

[Stacker Pentecost]

The Coli told me you were married to a 50 yr old white man.

Is that true?

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Everyone saying it’s about ‘white approval’ also clearly didn’t watch the entire grapevine video or ANY of my own personal work lol because I say several times idc about a Grammy as a marker of approval Bruno winning those Grammys just so happened to be the topic of the panel I was on so I spoke my piece. For me it’s more about what he represents in terms of love black culture, hate black bodies that’s disgusting. Black people hate ourselves and would even prefer our own culture from non-Black faces, it’s sick. Look at all these capes flying for Bruno.

But fukk a racist Grammy:

Matter fact fukk all awards shows:

100% truth. But that's not his fault or his battle to fight
The reality of non-blacks wanting Black culture with no or limited Black faces has been a consistent problem that's rooted in white supremacy and it should be one of the motives why Black folks embrace the pro-Black life, but we don't.
So it seem like with most white supremacy rooted problems, it's conditionally complained about or accepted/defended, depending on the situation and who's involved

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

I would say that even tho white kids LOVE them some ghetto safari Black Nat Geo music for entertainment purposes (and they will buy it), hip-hop didn’t become the most listened to genre when Biggie and Pac were out, it became the most listened to genre after these whites made a mass infiltration. Eminem made it palatable to the masses and to this day he remains the best selling rap artist of all time. He is the BEST SELLING artist of the 2000s in the United States. He outsold 50 Cent. He is the only artist to have eight albums consecutively debut at number one on the Billboard 200. Adele’s second studio album held the top position longer than any album in the United States since 1985. They’ll accept r&b, soul, hip-hop etc. from us if they have to, but it is VASTLY PREFERRED from a non-Black body. And even Black people feel this way about ourselves.

You put way too much emphasis on album sales like that shyt actually matters, but like @Una Mas stated, you're a consumer so it's all you really know

but bougie nikkas gonna bougie tho, not surprise you make your own people out to be the villains.

 

[agpxknt]

The caping for Bruno continues

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Damn Stevie getting shytted on in here?

 

[Stacker Pentecost]

100% truth. But that's not his fault or his battle to fight
The reality of non-blacks wanting Black culture with no or limited Black faces has been a consistent problem that's rooted in white supremacy and it should be one of the motives why Black folks embrace the pro-Black life, but we don't.
So it seem like with most white supremacy rooted problems, it's conditionally complained about or accepted/defended, depending on the situation and who's involved

It’s not his fault BUT I think Bruno isn’t some naive innocent babe in the woods, no one at his record label has a gun to his head forcing him to do blackface karaoke. He’s complicit and therefore part of the problem, damn near an agent of the system of racism white supremacy as far as I’m cocerned . Totally agree with the bolded tho

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

It’s not his fault BUT I think Bruno isn’t some naive innocent babe in the woods, no one at his record label has a gun to his head forcing him to do blackface karaoke. He’s complicit and therefore part of the problem, damn near an agent of the system of racism white supremacy as far as I’m cocerned . Totally agree with the bolded tho

100% truth. I have no problems with holding cacs and their agents accountable, while also ensuring that I'm accountable for directly addressing the root problem too
I think he's done enough by giving credit to the OGs, hopefully adding them to a couple tour dates and because I claim to not like the situation that Bruno is rightfully taking advantage of, I gotta live and promote a pro-Black life

 

[xoxodede]

I wanna say, I apologize if my posts come off as hostile sometimes.

Ditto.

It's all love I know I have strong opinions sometimes.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Here is the thing. I like Bruno Mars. I think he is super talented and he has never talked out the side of his neck as far as I know.

However, those of you who merely equate this to "hating" are oversimplifying the issue.

It isn't so much Bruno himself but what his success in r&b represents. I liked 24k Magic a lot but y'all know damn well a black artist would NOT have won AOTY with it. I've been reading comments on this and white/non black have said that blacks are just "mad" because he is doing it "better." This absolute bullshyt and doesn't sit right with me at all.

There are so many black artists just as talented that will NEVER even sniff a record deal. Love black music, not black people. Mainstream R&B is pretty much dead at this point for more reasons than laziness from current artists.

The anger expressed in the video may be misguided, but certainly not devoid of merit.

 

[George's Dilemma]

It’s not his fault BUT I think Bruno isn’t some naive innocent babe in the woods, no one at his record label has a gun to his head forcing him to do blackface karaoke. He’s complicit and therefore part of the problem, damn near an agent of the system of racism white supremacy as far as I’m cocerned . Totally agree with the bolded tho

I'm curious. If he's damn near an agent in the system of white supremacy, what does that make the Black artists whom he's done features for? The artists he's done features for, does that count for nothing? While we're at it, considering there's a ton of older Black folks who fukk with his music, what does that make them? There's a fair amount of eating going on by Black artists and consumers with the common denominator being Bruno Mars and I only see a handful of folks whining about it. And it's the typical insufferable shea butter septum ring crowd at that.

Also, how do you feel about old school white artists who Black people love. I'm talking Michael McDonald, Bobby Caldwell, Teena Marie, etc.. Are they also vultures?

In addition, since you have such a problem with non-Black folks doing Black music since they're vultures......how do you feel about below average Black artists who pretty much make a mockery of the culture to begin with leaving it like a carcass for the vultures to swoop in and feed? I think it's hypocritical to say the least when we get extra defensive and protective of our "culture" when it comes to non-Blacks. But let it be a below mediocre Black artists who is eating off well, and all of a sudden we're happy to see one of our own getting money.

 

[Kaypain]

Playboy :qpsmug:

I told yall in that thread I wasn't buying it because I only liked about half of it. Matter of fact, lemme jog your memory





And honestly, I haven't spoken about or listened to that album since. Now if, you can find evidence of me doing so, feel free to neg...but good look in your efforts. :imsorrytohearthat:


Yes, Bruno Mars' accolades are brought up because it's the crux of the argument. He's talented, his songs are catchy, but if he was black, fans and critics alike wouldn't give a fukk. And ya'll know this, despite what yall are saying in here. But to see folks try to downplay that for some preschool type of defense of "ya'll just hating "...that's just pathetic and I can't help but call it out and poke fun at yall.


Far as everything else you typed....I didn't read it, and I'm not going to.



Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get up outta here because I've spent far too long talking about a pop singer that looks like he takes a strap-on from women more brolic than he is in his private moments.

My nikka

 

[xoxodede]

I'm curious. If he's damn near an agent in the system of white supremacy, what does that make the Black artists whom he's done features for? The artists he's done features for, does that count for nothing? While we're at it, considering there's a ton of older Black folks who fukk with his music, what does that make them? There's a fair amount of eating going on by Black artists and consumers with the common denominator being Bruno Mars and I only see a handful of folks whining about it. And it's the typical insufferable shea butter septum ring crowd at that.

Also, how do you feel about old school white artists who Black people love. I'm talking Michael McDonald, Bobby Caldwell, Teena Marie, etc.. Are they also vultures?

In addition, since you have such a problem with non-Black folks doing Black music since they're vultures......how do you feel about below average Black artists who pretty much make a mockery of the culture to begin with leaving it like a carcass for the vultures to swoop in and feed? I think it's hypocritical to say the least when we get extra defensive and protective of our "culture" when it comes to non-Blacks. But let it be a below mediocre Black artists who is eating off well, and all of a sudden we're happy to see one of our own getting money.

Victims of White Supremacy.

The older white artist are not even that big in Black culture like that - they are respected - cause they got one or a few hits -- but they are not that deep.

In addition, since you have such a problem with non-Black folks doing Black music since they're vultures......how do you feel about below average Black artists who pretty much make a mockery of the culture to begin with leaving it like a carcass for the vultures to swoop in and feed?

They have a lack of Black self-respect.





But let it be a below mediocre Black artists who is eating off well, and all of a sudden we're happy to see one of our own getting money.

As we should. White people do it all the time.

 

[Gravity]

I would say that even tho white kids LOVE them some ghetto safari Black Nat Geo music for entertainment purposes (and they will buy it), hip-hop didn’t become the most listened to genre when Biggie and Pac were out, it became the most listened to genre after these whites made a mass infiltration. Eminem made it palatable to the masses and to this day he remains the best selling rap artist of all time. He is the BEST SELLING artist of the 2000s in the United States. He outsold 50 Cent. He is the only artist to have eight albums consecutively debut at number one on the Billboard 200. Adele’s second studio album held the top position longer than any album in the United States since 1985. They’ll accept r&b, soul, hip-hop etc. from us if they have to, but it is VASTLY PREFERRED from a non-Black body. And even Black people feel this way about ourselves.

Like we didn’t have cats like Jay Z, DMX, ja rule, Mase, snoop, Dre, selling 4-5 million records before Eminem. Hell, Cube was even going multi-plat during his prime run in the early-mid 90s. Saying that emeinem made hiphop palatable to the masses is a damn lie.

The rise of Eminem and the internet is significant to hip hop history in the context that it marks the point where there was a complete corporate takeover. Meaning, the early 2000s is when the industry started catering more to what the suburbs(whites) wanted as opposed to the “streets”. Once they put Eminem out and he was accepted/embraced(and blacks stopped buying records in favor of stealing off the net), white corporate America said “we got ‘em, it’s a wrap”.

Eminem is certainly not the person who made hip hop palatable to the masses tho. Hip hop was already mainstream by the time Eminem came out.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I would say that even tho white kids LOVE them some ghetto safari Black Nat Geo music for entertainment purposes (and they will buy it), hip-hop didn’t become the most listened to genre when Biggie and Pac were out, it became the most listened to genre after these whites made a mass infiltration. Eminem made it palatable to the masses and to this day he remains the best selling rap artist of all time. He is the BEST SELLING artist of the 2000s in the United States. He outsold 50 Cent. He is the only artist to have eight albums consecutively debut at number one on the Billboard 200. Adele’s second studio album held the top position longer than any album in the United States since 1985. They’ll accept r&b, soul, hip-hop etc. from us if they have to, but it is VASTLY PREFERRED from a non-Black body. And even Black people feel this way about ourselves.

At the same time Eminem was hot, Outkast and Usher were going Diamond. Eminem just released a bomb that no one cared about and no one is listening to his old albums. Adele has been gone for 2 years and she not doing anything different than what Celine Dion did 15 years ago and what Streisand did 50 years ago. I wouldn't give all the credit to Em and Adele. There's plenty of black artists that are putting out hits right now. Drake has the number one song in the country, Black Panther was the #1 album in the country, Migos just performed on SNL.

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

I understand what you are saying:


-Black people created the culture
-Black people perfected the craft
-the white man controls the product



How can “executives” and whatever other titles the white man holds in rap, be the ones deciding what gets output, what is hot, etc.


The white man controls all aspects of rap (well, media entirely). Yet they are also the influencers within the mainstream media (think needledrop).

How sway?




The only real answer is money.