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Most people don't care about any of this. But there's always going to be nitpicks with these films or things people didn't like because it's not the specific book they wanted.
SUPERMAN by James Gunn (OUT now)
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How the tables turnBased on the Rolling Stones interview that was released today, it's becoming clearer that all James Gunn thinks about Superman is that he's "nice and kind". That's it. He doesn't understand or respect anything about Superman otherwise.
Also, he's probably NOT as much of a comic book reader as he claims. I never thought I would be thinking this a week ago. I was defending him so hard.
Damn it, man
Json
Superstar
Superman is Kryptonian but he’s not beholden to to the ways of Krypton
You realize the fantasy of FTMWHE is that the only way can let go of the immense responsibilities of Superman and Earth is by never coming here.
Krypton isn’t the point of that story. You picked the one story that’s actually about Superman and his duties to Earth to make a point about how important Krypton is?
You're once again putting words into my mouth. I never said that Superman is "beholden to the ways of Krypton".Superman is Kryptonian but he’s not beholden to to the ways of Krypton
You realize the fantasy of FTMWHE is that the only way can let go of the immense responsibilities of Superman and Earth is by never coming here.
Krypton isn’t the point of that story. You picked the one story that’s actually about Superman and his duties to Earth to make a point about how important Krypton is?
However, the loss of Krypton is something that Superman carries with him forever. He will always think about "What could've been?". His parents and people are gone forever. That still hurts, and Superman's Kryptonian heritage remains with him.
This is all simple stuff to understand. I don't know why you and a few others in this thread can't comprehend that.
Nah,yall gotta stop this.
Pretending like the essence of Superman is immigrant representation. He has always been an alien,not no damn "immigrant"
If Gunn should be blamed for anything it should be attaching this movie to his pro immigration views. Becauase its clearly muddying the discourse. People acting like they actually believe or care about how this movie will tarnish the image of immigrants. Despite the "immigrant" himself(Superman) being good to his core and more pure than the average human lol
I think some people just dont like it and are trying to create a good reason as to why it shouldnt happen. When the truth is nobody cares about Supermans drad parents anymore than we care about Batmans. Most of yall complained so hard about having to sit through the origin again back to MOS. But now folks wanna act like what his parents think or say matters in the grand scheme. Either way it goes their message is inconsiquential in the long run
You were against a version Jonathan Kent telling Superman NOT to he a hero and save people I assume because it goes against how the character is depicted. But you’re surprised with people not agreeing with Jor-El being turned into Omni-Man?
This is what James Gunn said in a new interview:
F*ck James Gunn for this. I can't believe this sh!t
I mean James Gunn for years said he didn’t understand the Superman character
I assumed that with Lex translating the message he altered it to help him in his plan to subjugate Superman. Then the movie ended and I was wondering if I dozed off because they didn't address it. There wasn't even a "we'll get back to this next movie" moment. They ended on a happy note with a major loose end untied.
I felt like it was too close to Invincible. Can't look at Kryptonians the same
Jor El a wild boy
Little did we know he was coming back from a Diddy All White Party...
Json
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We’re talking about in the ways it affects his actions as Superman.
That pain doesn’t motivate him. That’s Batman’s area. His parents gave him a second chance. That’s the hope. The second half of the message doesn’t change that. A parent can give you all the advantages( and disadvantages some times) and tools but it’s still your choice.
If you want to see the pain of losing heritage I think you will get that in Supergirl and see the stark difference between a lived heritage and an idealized one Clark held onto at the start of the movie.
The loss of Krypton may not "motivate" Superman, but it's still a burden that weighs on him. Like a missing piece of his heart.
Also, a part of the reason why Superman fiercely protects Earth is because he doesn't want to lose another world. He doesn't want Earth to become Krypton 2.0.
I assumed that with Lex translating the message he altered it to help him in his plan to subjugate Superman. Then the movie ended and I was wondering if I dozed off because they didn't address it. There wasn't even a "we'll get back to this next movie" moment. They ended on a happy note with a major loose end untied.
I felt like it was too close to Invincible. Can't look at Kryptonians the same
MISTER TERRIFIC CONFIRMED
IT WASNT ALTERED IN THE MOVIE
Do we have a new DCU thread?
Been watching some interesting theories on Gunn’s plans and wanted post.
Been watching some interesting theories on Gunn’s plans and wanted post.
Saysumthinfunnymike
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I had a placeholder that I didn't really update too much but it was active and here:
DC Comics Movies/TV Shows News Thread. Chapter 1 - "Gods & Monsters"
This illustration is out of the Kingdom Come series. If that's where Gunn is heading then it's gonna be dope.
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I had a placeholder that I didn't really update too much but it was active and here:
DC Comics Movies/TV Shows News Thread. Chapter 1 - "Gods & Monsters"
This illustration is out of the Kingdom Come series. If that's where Gunn is heading then it's gonna be dope.
It’s official now
Early Misconception:
In the early seasons of Smallville, Clark discovers a message from Jor-El within his Kryptonian spaceship, suggesting a destiny of conquest. This, combined with Jor-El's seemingly harsh actions and demands, leads Clark to believe he was sent to rule Earth.
Jor-El's Intentions:
Later in the series, it's revealed that Jor-El's message was misinterpreted. Jor-El's true goal was for Clark to use his powers to protect Earth and guide humanity, not to dominate them. He wanted Clark to be a force for good, leading with strength and wisdom, but not through force.
This is damn near the exact same message from the damn movie
You were against a version Jonathan Kent telling Superman NOT to he a hero and save people I assume because it goes against how the character is depicted. But you’re surprised with people not agreeing with Jor-El being turned into Omni-Man?
I mean James Gunn for years said he didn’t understand the Superman character
You dont see the difference in a man who raised him,versus his father who sent him to earth on a spaceship who he doesnt know. Pretty sure one of those characters would have a little more impact on his character.
Jorel sent his baby to a planet where he knew he would be practically invincible. So regardless of what his little message he left was it was still a crapshoot that his son wouldnt decide to become a evil tyrant
Or perhaps they placed him in a home where they knew he would be raised by good people. Who hopefully would raise him not to be an evil tyrant. Which means yall are CHOOSING to take the message out of context.
Ive been begging for three pages now. All yall need to do is show me where the new message explicitly says anything as bad as "maybe let the kids die". Or says anything remotely telling Clark to do what Omni Man was shown to have done. The reason yall cant is because despite you putting the tag of "evil" on it. Theres nothing explicitly evil about the message.
This isnt a comic book or t.v show,its a movie trilogy
. We dont have time for all that nonsense yall wanna see. Yall didnt even want the origin story again. Now suddenly yall pretending yall really wanted to see "Kryptonian lore". Maaaan fukk Krypton
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