SUPERMAN by James Gunn (OUT now)

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Watched it and really enjoyed it was never the biggest superman fan but this movie was a great way to kill two hours solid 8.5/10

Like so many others have said Mr Terrific stole the movie I would not be above copping that leather jacket this fall:wow:

Guy Garnder was a dikk true to his comic form hope to see him in the Lanterns or additional DC movies:yeshrug:

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The reasons the comparisons are happening is because of what Superman represents in a societal context. That's why Superman gets the brunt of these debates over characterization differences

Snyder's and Gunn's differences in approach are different, but they share more similarities than I think people realize. I think both are worthy of discourse
I mentioned earlier that they are similar. I think people drawing lines in the sand make people miss it. If the idea for the original trilogy happened we would've gotten this Supes in the third movie. WB suits screwed the whole thing up chasing Marvel :snoop:
 

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I get what you're saying but that's the only thing keeping him from being Homelander. Nobody in that universe could realistically stop him if he didn't care. I took it as him establishing the difference between him and Ultraman more than anything. There's no more kryptonite on the planet, no more Ultraman, lol he has to have some kind of weakness and that's his humanity.
Magic is also his weakness. Captain Marvel usually fought him to a standstill
 

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So you think that Superman should be stern all of the time? That's unrealistic. Also, Superman had moments where he rage quit in the DCAU.

Further, Superman is NOT physically weak in the movie. I don't know why so many people are saying that.
Stern is not the word. I don't think it's to much to ask for a composed Superman, especially when MCU Steve Rogers existed. You knew when Steve was happy, sad, angry, worried etc but he never yielded to his emotions to the point where he'd look like he wasn't Captain America. The idea of a composed man has become this mythical, unrealistic, often toxic thing but I think it's something attainable and should be aspired to:manny: If I lost my temper with my girlfriend over a mock interview I'd be embarrassed after that shyt

I mentioned Superman crying when the Indian was killed. I think his reaction was appropriate. But if he started sobbing and slobbering and shaking nikkas would feel a way about seeing Superman like that:mjlol: That's the crux of my entire point about regulation

This Superman is not WEAK but he's definitely weaker than most iterations, and I think it's fine. I'm from the anime school of "The hero should get his ass whooped repeatedly, and keep getting up". A Superman that can get his ass whooped and get stronger adds stakes. This is why I think "You're only 83% healed% was a great detail to add
 

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I get the bolded which is why I actually didn't mind them making him physically weaker. I even understand the human elements anchoring him. My only point of contention is how he regulates those emotions

For reference I use Animated Series Superman as a standard. I think TAS Superman can get into a debate with Lois without screaming at her. I think TAS Superman can be visibly angry and ask where his dog is without throwing shyt around like Batman. Ironically I also think the best on screen Superman is MCU Steve Rogers. That's the type of temperament I expect from Superman

It's also worth noting that I didn't mind at all when Superman cried when the Indian got killed:manny: That's was a very appropriate, Superman like reaction. This is what I mean when I talk about the spectrum of emotional regulation. When I see a 30 year old man screaming at his girlfriend I see a big baby, when I see that same man cry because a man was killed I understand his tears completely



"Its only his third year,give him room to grow,this is a noir take on Superman:mjgrin:"
 

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Matt should tell him NO :ufdup: Don't mix his Batman in Gunn's goofy DC world.
*Gunn didn't say anything that he hasn't already said.

*Matt Reeves' Batman will NOT be in the DCU.

*Every DCU project will NOT have the same tone. So DCU Batman will not be the same as DCU Superman.


Now, get out of the thread, you Superman hater :ufdup:
 

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So you think that Superman should be stern all of the time? That's unrealistic. Also, Superman had moments where he rage quit in the DCAU.

Further, Superman is NOT physically weak in the movie. I don't know why so many people are saying that.

Superman just didn’t act like a fully developed 30+ year old man. He was literally throwing tantrums and couldn’t even properly articulate/defend his decisions to justify his actions. It was like watching a live action MARK GRAYSON.

If this was meant to be a teenage/young Superman in his early 20’s I don’t think there’s an issue. But this is a GROWN 30 year old + year 3 superman.

That scene with Superman and Lex in his office and the interview with Lois was like watching when Invincible gets mad and rants at Cecil. With one looking like an angry child and the other like a calm adult.
 
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