Supreme Clientele's 17th Anniversary :wow:

[I love Latina women]

I honestly blame Diddy for that shyt. Dude took a simple sample and just made it a parody song which was lazy as hell. Then everybody did the shyt and thus the boring east coast sound was born. During that time, I tapped out completely and moved on to Beat By the Pound type of production. Eventually, things turned around when beat makers actually chop the samples and make their own sound.

Diddy was lazy with the samples because he (well, his production team, The Hitmen) didn't even try to do anything new with them. They just straight up looped shyt.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I honestly blame Diddy for that shyt. Dude took a simple sample and just made it a parody song which was lazy as hell. Then everybody did the shyt and thus the boring east coast sound was born. During that time, I tapped out completely and moved on to Beat By the Pound type of production. Eventually, things turned around when beat makers actually chop the samples and make their own sound.

East coast legit never bounced back. There was a time where even the one hit wonders and scrubs from NYC made good music which is why people call everything pre 1997 a classic. But in the 2000s NYC got on that whole movement stuff where everyone was just rocking with one or two movements at a time on some NWO stuff.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Diddy was lazy with the samples because he didn't even try to do anything new with them. He just straight up looped shyt.

Forreal...I swear, the only thing he actually add to the sample is a bassline and one drum pattern.



Good song but wtf...might as well let Mase rap on the original song.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I honestly blame Diddy for that shyt. Dude took a simple sample and just made it a parody song which was lazy as hell. Then everybody did the shyt and thus the boring east coast sound was born. During that time, I tapped out completely and moved on to Beat By the Pound type of production. Eventually, things turned around when beat makers actually chop the samples and make their own sound.

It was legit shocking to see bad boy become status.

Gdep and Black Rob were dope but outside of them from what i remember the bad boy roster was trash.

 

[I love Latina women]

Forreal...I swear, the only thing he actually add to the sample is a bassline and one drum pattern.



Good song but wtf...might as well let Mase rap on the original song.

Yup lol

 

[Apollo Creed]

Forreal...I swear, the only thing he actually add to the sample is a bassline and one drum pattern.



Good song but wtf...might as well let Mase rap on the original song.

I legit wonder what would have happened if Mase and Cam signed with So so def like originally planned. Or if Mase went to the Roc and get that Jus Blaze and ye stimulus package

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

East coast legit never bounced back. There was a time where even the one hit wonders and scrubs from NYC made good music which is why people call everything pre 1997 a classic. But in the 2000s NYC got on that whole movement stuff where everyone was just rocking with one or two movements at a time on some NWO stuff.

The 2000s as a whole was a blessing for every coast. Folks were eating good because everybody had a business mindset, instead of trying to get by. Plus, the idea that every faction had an in house production crew made the shyt so sweet. You can tell you hear a Ruff Ryders track, you can listen to a track from the ROC and know it's their signature. This is the thing that's missing from the game is in-house production. I knew the industry was going to go a terrible route once Baseline closed down and folks started to reach out to one man dudes, rather than getting a team of super producers to create flames.

 

[Apollo Creed]

The 2000s as a whole was a blessing for every coast. Folks were eating good because everybody had a business mindset, instead of trying to get by. Plus, the idea that every faction had an in house production crew made the shyt so sweet. You can tell you hear a Ruff Ryders track, you can listen to a track from the ROC and know it's their signature. This is the thing that's missing from the game is in-house production. I knew the industry was going to go a terrible route once Baseline closed down and folks started to reach out to one man dudes, rather than getting a team of super producers to create flames.

Yup whole industry going to 2-3 produers. So now instead of saying this is a "insert camp here" song you say this is a "insert producer here" song.

Only "camp" you can listen to and say they have a sound is Ovo/Drake.

One thing the game is missing is POSSE songs. There is a big difference between a posse song and a song with a ton of rappers on it (like what dj khaled does).

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Erick Sermon was the king of using the same samples over and over again but finding new ways of flipping them. His beats use to leave me in a trance. The beats were funky and laid back.

He had some of the best drums!

I feel like this best work was on Keith Murray's Enigma and Redman's Muddy Waters. But he was consistent for real long time. He started switching his style up on the Def Squad EL Nino album tho

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

It was legit shocking to see bad boy become status.

Gdep and Black Rob were dope but outside of them from what i remember the bad boy roster was trash.

Bad Boy imo should have just went the R and B route. When Biggie died, that seemed a bit of their movement with 112, Faith, Carl Thomas, and even Mario Winans. Hell, majority of Bad Boy tracks were made to chill with a mate anyway, so might as well go with the flow. I don't know any dudes that be on some grimey shyt bumping a Diddy album....now Shyne....that's another story.

 

[Billy Ocean]

All these albums were good except I cant co sign you on the Pillage breh

That flood really kinda fukked with the Wu sound a bit. Not to mention RZA was committing himself to being more digital. I do think Deck got done dirty tho. No way his first solo shoulda dropped after Forever. That album woulda fit perfectly between Liquid Swords and Ironman

Lol. The Pillage was dope imo. Cap really showed his decline in lyrical ability but the fvcking beats were . The production carried the album. Woulda been classic if Cuban Linx/Ironman Cap rhymed on them.

And RZA's musical curiousity definitely hurt some of the later Wu projects. He just didn't wanna stay with the same sound. But hey...alot of legendary producers "fell off" because of their musical progression.

 

[I love Latina women]

I feel like this best work was on Keith Murray's Enigma and Redman's Muddy Waters. But he was consistent for real long time. He started switching his style up on the Def Squad EL Nino album tho

I think the same thing. That Muddy Waters album is it for me! That shyt was so damn funky and laid back.

Then that Insomnia compilation too!

 

[Danie84]

Acrobat run up on that Love Jones Actress

 

[Apollo Kid]

"Bahamadia or Missy?"

"Nia when I see ya, imma long her"

 

[Billy Ocean]

When I go back and listened to albums like Supreme Clientele, Cuban Linx (just finished listening to this 5 minutes ago), Liquid Swords etc etc I still feel like RZA was too great to fall off. I mean, nobody stays on top forever but I just feel like he gotta have some crumbs of that greatness left in him. Bruh was a genius

The thing with RZA...as like Kanye...is that you know that he can make those old grimey, dope Wu beats in his sleep. We've even seen it here and there over the past decade. Just that he doesn't want to.