Switch 2 sells over 3 million for the first 24 hours of launch

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Nintendo is beloved; it's the Disney of gaming

the peak of family friendly franchises and at home multiplayer

it would need multiple franchise tanking to not be successful :manny:

hardcore gamers dont have a buy in franchise even though the direct was trying to appeal to that population of gamers with elden ring, Cyber punk, the dark souls multiplayer game and Final Fantasy ...

the system could sold more

Nintendo didn't even go to a signature system seller like
a new animal crossing or zelda at launch :mindblown:
Mario Kart IS a signature system seller though.
 

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I dont think an animal crossing would be a system seller over mario kart. Mario kart has been around since like 93 and the last one sold 70 million copies or close to it, at almost full price outside the bundles.

the one area where nintendo has just never failed in (outside 3ds) is handhelds. They’ve owned the market for close to 40 years now. People can say way they want but the switch is seen as a handheld successor before a home console successor
This will vary by the person man, there's no way to really prove this.

Take me for instance..

Bought a Switch in 2018, used it handheld for maybe 15 minutes in total.

Otherwise, docked or proto stationary for the rest of the time.

And there's no small amount of owners who did the same.

Hybrid means you don't have to choose.
 

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a lot of people bought a switch for animal crossing cause of covid - people that never own the system got on the hype train

The switch was the wii on steriods in getting people in the eco system who are not traditional gamers

mario kart world safe but i think a lot people would been excited by a more expanisve animal crossing

Animal Crossing: New Horizons with 31.18 million. Despite being less than a year old, New Horizons is on track to become the Switch's best-selling game ever. Around 39% of Switch owners, in fact, own a copy.

Animal Crossing is at 48 million sold right now.

Best selling exclusive ever.
 

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Sony is fukking up not following nintendo

nintendo understands the necessity of a walled garden
Sony has cultured it's fans to expect glossy, expensive titles. As the norm.

Nintendo has built its empire on a mix of glossy AAA and smaller experimental or weird titles.

Kooky is king, as it were.

Hence something like Luigi's Mansion 3 selling like 15 million copies.

Insanity, for the scope of the game.
 

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That's my main concern. Moving a ton of hardware is great, but what about software sales?

People forgot that Wii sold a ton of hardware but was very weak in software. I don't have the numbers, but both Sony and Microsoft made more money than Nintendo that gen due to Nintendo being much weaker on software. It's going to be interesting to see how Nintendo navigates with the industry changing. Games are taking longer to make and niche titles are now becoming more mainstream. Xbox Series S should help them with devs being more comofrotable working on weaker hardware but they can't afford to miss out on certain titles imo.
Breh, find the numbers, because neither Sony nor Microsoft made more money than Nintendo that generation.

That's an insane claim to make.

Nintendo in the Wii60 generation made more money than any other platform holder by an exponential degree, because they were booming on both the handheld market AND the home console market.

And they made a ton of money on software that generation, what are you talking about?

Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort, Wii fit, Mario Kart Wii, New Super Mario, Smash, Galaxy games, etc. Like all those titles sold upwards of 25 million copies, outside of the Galaxy games and Smash. MkWii sold like 37 million units.

THEY moved an absolute ton of software that gen, the real issue was 3P did not, but that was on them, as they didn't bring their absolute best to that userbase.

And they had similar issues last generation on Switch, because they prioritized PS/Xbox/PC and often put their B-titles and teams on Switch.

You can't give people scraps and be surprised they don't go gaga over them.

Especially in a world that's so interconnected via information.

The 90s was the last era that ish worked.

You give quality, people tend to respond, hence Capcom's second best selling game ever being Monster Hunter Rise(World is the first).

The money they made that gen was never approached by another platform holder until they outdid themselves in the Switch generation.

Sony lost all the money they made in the PS1/PS2 gens in the PS3 generation.
It wasn't until the end of the generation that they righted the ship and got into smoother waters.

Literally, the Ps4 was such a conservative leap forward because of the bruise the PS3 generation was for them.

360?

Was Microsoft's best gen, and they experienced a second wind at the end of the generation with the Kinect, but they lost billions righting the RROD fiasco.

Without the albatross of the three red rings, they might have approached Nintendo's profitability that gen, but we will never know.

People just say anything sometimes.
 
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Mario was almost 7 months after the Switch. BOTW was a port of a Wii U game. Xenoblade 2 was 9 months after release. Splatoon was what I'd consider a launch window game though.
Nope, Splatoon 2 came out in July, four months after the console launched.

Switch probably is the best launch year for a first party though.

Botw, Splatoon 2, Arms, Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade 2, in its first 9 months, before Christmas.

Something for almost everyone, aside from an rts/strategy player.

The actual launch was just BOTW and like Snipperclips and 1-2 Switch though.
 

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It sold that much because they had actually had them in stock. You couldn’t find a PS5 in store for almost 2 years after it dropped.

For comparison I walked into a random Target on launch day and copped a Switch 2.:russell:
"It only sold that much because it was available to purchase and people bought it"
:dahell:
 

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Nope, Splatoon 2 came out in July, four months after the console launched.

Switch probably is the best launch year for a first party though.

Botw, Splatoon 2, Arms, Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade 2, in its first 9 months, before Christmas.

Something for almost everyone, aside from an rts/strategy player.

The actual launch was just BOTW and like Snipperclips and 1-2 Switch though.
I said I'd consider Splatoon a launch window game. I don't see 9 months as a launch window or really anything past 3-4 months. You but a console you not really trying to wait 6-9 months for a new hyped game. You'd want something right upfront if possible.
 

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I said I'd consider Splatoon a launch window game. I don't see 9 months as a launch window or really anything past 3-4 months. You but a console you not really trying to wait 6-9 months for a new hyped game. You'd want something right upfront if possible.
That might be for you, but most people tend to rate the time between launch and the first holiday season, as the launch period.

Or launch year, as it were.

Switch got the ball rolling due to its various quality titles, and the momentum just never let up, tbh.

Had a great launch year, then the hits just kept coming.

If Nintendo learned anything, that early momentum is key.

Hence Splatoon Raiders being rated already, and I'm sure by Christmas they have a first party epic jrpg landing that's NOT Pokémon.
 

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I'm really interested to see what Nintendo can do with Mario and Zelda I feel like the games have kind of peaked with Odyssey and tales of the Kingdom in certain aspects. And I don't even mean that in a bad way
 

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I'm really interested to see what Nintendo can do with Mario and Zelda I feel like the games have kind of peaked with Odyssey and tales of the Kingdom in certain aspects. And I don't even mean that in a bad way
I mean we haven't had a new traditional Zelda game in years. The last one was 12 years ago with A Link Between Worlds.

Nintendo always knows how to keep the Mario formula refresh, so I got nothing to doubt them. Though how easy 3D Mario has become is more of a concern than worrying if they can't keep the formula fresh. DK game should be very, very interesting.
 

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The more I read about DKB the more i don’t think it will be a home run the way odyssey was.

i’ve seen a lot of people that played it say they don’t like the digging/breaking mechanics and that it felt tedious. I think nintendo needs a new mario
 

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That might be for you, but most people tend to rate the time between launch and the first holiday season, as the launch period.

Or launch year, as it were.

Switch got the ball rolling due to its various quality titles, and the momentum just never let up, tbh.

Had a great launch year, then the hits just kept coming.

If Nintendo learned anything, that early momentum is key.

Hence Splatoon Raiders being rated already, and I'm sure by Christmas they have a first party epic jrpg landing that's NOT Pokémon.
I've never seen anyone suggest the entire first year is a launch window. A reach is about 6 months.

Personally is say the first quarter of a console release is the launch window so that's about 4 months.
 

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I've never seen anyone suggest the entire first year is a launch window. A reach is about 6 months.

Personally is say the first quarter of a console release is the launch window so that's about 4 months.
No, I misspoke there.

A launch window is generally about a month or so from initial release.

The titles here are often pretty mid tbh, with maybe one or two standouts.

The Switch had BOTW. NS2 has MKW. PS5 had Demon's Souls.

What most people really rate however, is the first year.

Or basically whatever time is spent between launch and the first holiday because this is when the priority titles tend to get released.

People who remember don't really think about PS2's launch window, where it was stuff like Fantavision and The Bouncer that was available.

But they do speak of that first year, where DMC/Grant Turismo/Ace Combat/FFX/GTA 3/Ico/Jak Precursor/MGS2 etc launched.

None of those titles were there at day one but by day 300 iirc, all were present and made it a legendary first year for the worldwide release.
 
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