T.I. "If 50 was from the Midwest he would be Nelly"

[spliz]

you know i know the demo sir.
don't play dumb either cause we can easily point.
to ti's real rubrick and him never ramping.
just having a writing pool in house.


art barr

Bro I’m dead ass confused. I only heard reference tracks TI wrote for other people.

 

[Art Barr]

50 didnt make the mixtape circuit. but yea, he did take it to another level.
wayne capitalized but he watered the mixtape circuit down actually. he didnt take anything to another level.

TIP put way more street hits on the radio than 50 cent.
we gotta end this myth that 50 cent has all these street hits. all that chit is a marketing facade. the vast majority of his hits are str8 pop tart.

ti has a excellent mixtape discography.
yet any mixtape run outside quality of Raekwon, busta, cam, Jr writer.
I would not give props on fiddy level.
as ti, again did not write.
what he is known for as this technical marvel.
where as we fiddy's interior rhyming technical base when used is higher than it's real technical. When ti is not written for. Now granted fiddy has been written for as well. Yet in that we know the larger records and his initial submissions before shady were his own technical base although derived from the boom of the jiggy era with mase. With ti, we know he was never skilled bar to bar with his own skill set. Hence why he was relaunched on trap music and then after regressed when having to write on his own after the trap music release with clef. Then having to go back to writing pools after failing to followup in quality of verse bar to bar and actual song quality as well.

we may have gotten sick of the pop explosion of fiddy. As with any double or dual diamond selling act drawing act experienced decline of a draw.

yet and still fiddy's moments we know him for are authenically fiddy'a skill set on display.
not a much higher skilled all time emcee and a host of higher skilled emcees.
in the P$c to hustle gang slash grand hustle writing pool as well.

when you go back and listen to fiddy. It is a genuine listen on the larger drawing records for the most part. With ti,...all the dope records disenguinely are not written by ti and he has no high quality rubrick as a writer for himself. To properly call out fiddy.

like ti is basically a rnb voice over artist.
ti = Pixar

like most southern atlanta drawing acts who debuted in turn of the century.
to the early to mid 2000's.


Atlanta is a rnb depot.
nuffin has changed.
except the marketing to allow bandwagon fans
to say rnb produced rap are high quality submission in hiphop. Which is a lie and fu as all hell. When rnb produced rap is fukk'n wack as fukk.
Plus why things are the way are.
plus reverted and retroacted hiphop in thr mainstream.
back to being a fad from the ol school way of thought.
that completely unsettles any progress.
that could have been made culturally.
through hiphop culture in the new school way of thought


art barr

 

[Bondye Vodou]

Where T.I get all this gonads from? Him and Wayne were scared to go at fif back in the day.



















Fat Boy on tha other hand

 

[Art Barr]

Bro I’m dead ass confused. I only heard reference tracks TI wrote for other people.

you mean his writing pool created and was commissioned by grand hustle.



art barr

 

[Art Barr]

Where T.I get all this gonads from? Him and Wayne were scared to go at fif back in the day.



















Fat Boy on tha other hand

ross got served and clowned by every member in gunit.
including desecrated by yayo.

stop with the false fake narrative of what really happened.

this whole thread is foo too.
as ross has never written on thr level of ti's writing pool.
Plus ross uses gw's too.
where you all been fooled by that fat wack cop donut break nikka.

yet nikkaz will say cause i knocked his head off.
I am fronting or jealous. When real talk...
all the rappers you nikka like.
a joke to me and not the real headliner like me as well.

y'all be listening to losers and reclamation projects in your completely sheltered lives and homes. Trying to talk about who street.
to cover up you got wack horrible taste.
plus indulge in culture thief made rap.


art barr

you nikkaz only like the fakes...who you can make a fake false narrative about.
from your flaug fufu sheltered homebody face ass lives.

 

[Bondye Vodou]

ross got served and clowned by every member in gunit.
including desecrated by yayo.

Just admit u a g-unit fan breh

 

[DANJ!]

i mean, it was still going on in the early 2000s, so i rock with him on the nelly thing. people still downplaying nelly in this very thread.

but as far as TIP's career goes, he blew in the mid-2000s. there was no big bias by that point.

Nah... nikkas just wanna be victims if they talkin' that 'bias' shyt anyway, but especially as it relates to the 2000s...

The Nelly shyt is what it is. He was huge, he had major radio and pop appeal hits... but that's where it stops. We can't act like Nelly was ever big on the 'street level' the same way 50 was.

 

[JustCKing]

Nah... nikkas just wanna be victims if they talkin' that 'bias' shyt anyway, but especially as it relates to the 2000s...

The Nelly shyt is what it is. He was huge, he had major radio and pop appeal hits... but that's where it stops. We can't act like Nelly was ever big on the 'street level' the same way 50 was.

Nelly was as consistent on the street level as 50, but when Nelly dropped the song below, he did make the streets collectively hit the :



^^^ song still had a Pop feel, but nobody expected a song like that from Nelly. Then he popped up on "Roc The Mic" remix.

 

[Art Barr]

Just admit u a g-unit fan breh

just admit you making a false narrative about the battle.
ross got served by banks, yayo and fiddy with no get back but offbrand name calling that did not treat nobody.



art barr

 

[Art Barr]

Nah... nikkas just wanna be victims if they talkin' that 'bias' shyt anyway, but especially as it relates to the 2000s...

The Nelly shyt is what it is. He was huge, he had major radio and pop appeal hits... but that's where it stops. We can't act like Nelly was ever big on the 'street level' the same way 50 was.

when was nelly not a black commercial street artist.

are you guys re-writing the past?
nelly was street and was the top draw as far as the urban pop artist.

Which means street.
nelly is not being properly discussed in this thread if so.
as commercial high selling rappers who are black. Were a-typically urban street artist. As commercial rap is derived from ruthless records and gangsta rap's boom n the late eighties. To later on nikkaz4life becoming the mtv album. Even if soc was previously banned on MTV.

art barr

 

[Bondye Vodou]

just admit you making a false narrative about the battle.
ross got served by banks, yayo and fiddy with no get back but offbrand name calling that did not treat nobody.



art barr

Hahaha yeah right, that's ducktales, like you having info on T.I no writing his bars.

U just mad cause he going at fif.

 

[Art Barr]

Hahaha yeah right, that's ducktales, like you having info on T.I no writing his bars.

U just mad cause he going at fif.

how!?!!!!!!

first off do you write,...
what do you write?
as you not no dj...
you not a bboy and you not an emcee.
you are a toy.

you goofies swear you know the culture of hiphop and some homebodies.
really,...you the only emo fan in here making up a false narrative.

so since you are deflecting your feelings.
about ross on to me about fiddy.
what rap line did ross so-called win this battle with.

as they do not exist.
you sitting here emo as hell trying to make a false narrative.

I can post the gunit songs where ross got bodied on every record by G unit even yayo.
you can only post road.
trying to diss fiddy and then getting countered and systematically destroyed by all of G unit.

now keep making up a false narrative.

when i am the protege to a legend of the greatest battle emcee in the actual history of rap.
I don't have to make up what occurred during a battle.
especially against rick ross.
who i even served myself and i guarantee try and hide just like joe budden.
I show no allegiance to nobody on shady foo foo.
shady is on because of my actual pedigree.

I owe no one on shady anything.
I only post about culturally what really occurred.

now,...take yo emo fake narrative fan making up bullshyt ass the fukk on.
especial in a nelly thread. Where all this fake narrative bullshyt.
about who won a battle first started for your fake ass generation.


now go learn some real cultural history.
first off, and don't talk about shyt in hiphop culture. Till you actually are a part of hiphop culture.
as you not in hiphop.
you just some fan of world music and came across some rap at best.


you false narrative fans better stfu.

you talking to the headliner.

you do not know about because you are a homebody and sheltered as all fukk.
then trying to talk like you take part in actual hiphop culture and you do not.

you just scared.
if i post ti's ghost writers too.
when the shyt was pr'd.
before ti had to try to save face from all his self induced issues.
Plus decided ti was on some shyt.
to go at a higher draw.
when ti's music is foo foo as hell.
it is not because ti stopped making music.
ti's draw ceased because the truth is there.
when his career was built on being this technical ramp up marvel.
yet his ramp up is because he had WRITERS. NOT FROM HIS REAL SKILL.

ti probably running his mouth on a versus battle. As, ti knows.
both ti and fiddy's credits are flauged't as fukk.

just like rick ross's writing credits are flaug foo as fukk too.

you trying to save culture thieves. When i consume them as my diet to live.

now stfu while i prepare and season my food.

you don't know shyt about being no real emcee frfr lil nikka.




art barr

you lil nikkaz better stfu about my meal prep.

you lil nikkaz don't know the best nikkaz in rap frfr.

you to commercial, homebody sheltered to know about hiphop culture.
you just some ducks and toys at best.
if so,...i would know who you are and it would be no mystery about who you are online.
as you would say it. Or some shyt would happen where your draw makes you have to expose. Or someone who sheltered like you learns by proxy of those events.

Yousa nobody sheltered homebody. Stop trying to talk about a culture you do. Ot take part in. Plus only like artist who need a loan house to create their draw....


Art Barr

imma headliner.
Yousa fukk'n homebody.

stfu and stay in the crib.
like you were before being quarantined.

 

[Art Barr]

Nelly ever respond to this? I'd be more offended if I was Nelly than I would if I was 50.

If i was nelly.
I would serve ti for that bullshyt and go in.


art barr

 

[hjnm]

Where T.I get all this gonads from? Him and Wayne were scared to go at fif back in the day.




Fat Boy on tha other hand

Nah Wayne hitback at 50

 

[28 Gramz]

when was nelly not a black commercial street artist.

are you guys re-writing the past?
nelly was street and was the top draw as far as the urban pop artist.

Which means street.
nelly is not being properly discussed in this thread if so.
as commercial high selling rappers who are black. Were a-typically urban street artist. As commercial rap is derived from ruthless records and gangsta rap's boom n the late eighties. To later on nikkaz4life becoming the mtv album. Even if soc was previously banned on MTV.

art barr

Nelly was never a god in the hood like Pac,Biggie,Snoop,50,DMX,Jay,Wayne or even Jeezy. He had some hits that we rocked too but in high school (99-03) I never heard any nikka say "yo put that Nelly cd in".