Takeover (At Least the Nas Verse) Was One of The Weakest Diss Tracks Ever

[Magnum P.I.M.P.]

Not a Jay fan, but I almost ruled it a draw just because Nas said "Gay-Z." Breuuhhhs, if that ain't a grade school dis I've never heard one. Embarrassing.

 

[MurderToCassette]

The biggest myth in the whole beef is the "one hot album every 10 year average" shyt Jay was trying to pull. He'd been in the game since 89' and had no big crossover single until his third album in 98' with Hard Knock Life.



I like Reasonable Doubt, but let's be reality, no one was checking for it on the same level as a Pac or Big in 96', that's why he did so much to build that albums status after the fact.

 

[Canada Goose]

Not a Jay fan, but I almost ruled it a draw just because Nas said "Gay-Z." Breuuhhhs, if that ain't a grade school dis I've never heard one. Embarrassing.

Rap disses in general are full of immature disses


On Takeover Jay called Nas a "faq model" which is just as immature as Gay Z.


It seems at one point in a rap beef you had to call your opponent gay at least once

 

[Magnum P.I.M.P.]

Rap disses in general are full of immature disses


On Takeover Jay called Nas a "faq model" which is just as immature as Gay Z.


It seems at one point in a rap beef you had to call your opponent gay at least once

You’re right, and gay is one thing, but Gay-Z might be the worst dis I’ve ever heard in my entire life that was actually put on wax. Least creative and wack.

Matter of fact... yeah, it’s the worst until someone proves me different. That’d be a good thread actually. Someone get on that.

 

[hex]

1). According to Serch, Nas did INDEED get paid off of Jay-Z sampling his voice. There was no Serchlite Publishing at the time that Jay—Z sampled Dead Presidents


2). How could Nas fall off before Stillmatic when he put out TWO platinum albums within the same year? One of those albums was acclaimed critically (I am) and One was not (Nastradamus) but two platinum albums in ONE year (something only DMX har achieved at the time) isn’t indicative of flopping

You can always tell who wasn't into hip-hop in the 90's because they claim the Serchlite publishing line is true.

Fred.

 

[Taadow]

If it was as weak as you’re trying to claim, cats wouldn’t have written Nas off like they did. A big part of the reason Ether was so effective is because the perception was that there was no way he could come back from Takeover.

This was the truth in real-time.

Part of the reason for this is Jay probably thought what almost everybody else thought:
Nas last couple records were devoid of emotion, and now that he’s some kinda “prophet”
or whatever, he might not even feel like giving Jay a response. Boy, were we wrong.

 

[Kogami]

Blueprint 2 title track was even worse.

 

[kingjones29]

One of the best diss song

 

[kes929]

You’re right, and gay is one thing, but Gay-Z might be the worst dis I’ve ever heard in my entire life that was actually put on wax. Least creative and wack.

Matter of fact... yeah, it’s the worst until someone proves me different. That’d be a good thread actually. Someone get on that.

It worked

 

[The_Third_Man]

what I respect the most about Nas in the battle was that he waited for 3-4 months to respond to the Takeover. Some rappers were quick to clown Nas around that time thinking his career was over. Nas though was secured enough not to rush his response. Which means the takeover didn't really hurt him.

 

[Magnum P.I.M.P.]

It worked

Not if you ask the Jay-Z crowd. I thought both were pretty weak to be honest, but I'm a big Nas fan. Jay I could do without. Battles over microphones are gay to begin with, but this one in particular always had me

 

[kes929]

Not if you ask the Jay-Z crowd. I thought both were pretty weak to be honestly, but I'm a big Nas fan. Jay I could do without. Battles over microphones are gay to begin with, but this one in particular always had me

Yea both songs in the grand scheme are weak In their catalogue. Nas ether was just an absolute bomb when it dropped. Its impact was crazy. And ofcourse a jayz crowd would think that, they mad hov lost the battle. They thought he was untouchable.

 

[Saint1]

Nah I know P's story, I listened to his audiobook and all that. I know the whole thing with him figuring out Irv and Jay getting Ashanti to get the pics. And in them doing that, they were hunting to get pics on him. I doubt Ashanti came to them on some "I got pics of Prodigy as a child" shyt. They had to have talked her into getting them.

The whole thing is just creepy ass weirdo behavior. Not to mention one of the most overrated disses of all time. P was in a dance troupe when he was a kid...okay...so?

Oh shyt. I did not know that.

 

[504Slim]

Agreed, I hate how Joe Budden , Ctg, and a bunch of other Media guys always put that diss above ether. Especially Mal(from Joe Budden podcast) when he says the ether beat is trash, I'm like fam have u heard the takeover beat? shyts trash

 

[Izanami]

Nah he got at Nas on some more fact based shyt....i used your own words and you didn't even get paid off it. you weren't really about that street life, you just watched other ppl actually do it and tried to pass it off as your own experiences....you got outrapped on a song by your bodyguard and your weed carriers.

The problem is Jay just spit it too laidback and chill so ppl didn't really FEEL it like you want ppl to on a diss

I know Ether is classic but Nas's shyt is mostly sandbox elementary school insults....you ugly, whiskers like a rat, taebo hoe....the only real shyt he got Jay on is the fact Jigga has used too many of Biggie's rhymes and the fact that Beans at times outshined Jay on songs.

Nas just went at the diss with more fire and oomph which is why more ppl fukk with it even tho lyrically it's super light.

Nas making money off Jayz arguably best record